I'd be stoked to grab Budinger...his upside is tremendous, while having little risk. Worst case scenario for him is he's a 6th or 7th man off the bench hitting jumpers; best case he's an allstar...seems like a no brainer to me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 20 2008, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 20 2008, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 19 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 19 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of getting 2 wing players. IMO we're so in need of a couple good ones coming off the bench. I'd like to get a PG in there, too.</div> What do you think about DJ Augistine? </div> I've only seen him a few times on TV, of course. But from what I've seen, he can run a team. He can lead. He can shoot really good. He's clutch. IMO he's in the top 3 PG in college basketball. If he dropped to our lottery spot, assuming we couldn't get Rose, I'd definitely want them picking him up. </div> Well if we use our lottery pick to get a PG...Does that mean we trade DH? Or Dont start the rook and put him behind him? Jw. </div> No, we trade Marcus and have DJ take on full backup PG duties
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813 @ Apr 20 2008, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That draft express one looks pretty nice. I like DA but he's the only one I really watched play this past season. I saw Walker in the tournament and he had some real nice flashes too. While I understand the allure of a 7 footer this paragraph from DE tunrs me off: "Offensively, Jordan is still extremely raw, displaying unpolished footwork, having a tough time establishing position for himself in the post, and clearly struggling finishing through any type of contact, even against very average competition at times. He has a difficult time holding his spot on the block, lacking a great deal of core strength and balance, and therefore often preferring to fade away from his matchup softly rather than go up strong at the rim. He lacks fundamentals on this end of the floor, not really knowing how to set proper screens, blowing open dunks at times, and not possessing any real counter moves or a left hand to speak of at the moment. The abysmal 40% he shoots from the free throw line tells you all you need to know about his shooting range, while the five turnovers he commits for every one assist makes him the second worst player in our entire database in that category, and speaks volumes about where he is at in terms of his court awareness and overall feel for the game." On a team where the offense is based off of reads and already has limited post play i'm not sure this is the right guy for us. While it might be high to pick him at 10, I think CDR would be really nice fit on this squad even if it is another wing player.</div> wow we don't need this guy!
If you thought Jordan and McGhee were worth taking at #10--and believed they would blossom within two years--they could be worth the risk, but only if you also believed a good wingman would drop to #21. Raw, athletic big men are always a risk...but one GM's will ALWAYS take. It's a tricky draft. Supposed to be "top-heavy", maybe. There's a lot of raw talent, as opposed to last year, which was supposed to the best in 25 years, maybe ever, because of all the players who were "NBA-ready". And yet, there were fewer 10 ppg scorers from last year's draft than there were in any draft since 2001, which was supposed to be (and probably is) the worst draft in 25 years. So you never know.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 20 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 20 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My money's on Westbrook, Budinger, or CDR. Wouldn't be surprised if the Nets move down to get CDR, even though he's not a great shooter.</div> Do you realize how not good Westbrook really is? </div> I don't care one way or the other. I'm predicitng who the nets will take, not expressing an opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Apr 20 2008, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks, Dumpy! It is hard to predict exact draft choice of 30 teams. But, If I'm not mistaken, DraftExpress was the only who predicted us taking SW in 2007 draft. So, following the logic we'll take Jordan in 2008.</div> A few days before the draft, there were signals that the nets were going to take Sean. i don't know who draftexpress predicted the nets would take last April, but you could proabbly find out by checking the netsdaily archives
Personally I think McGhee is an interesting prospect, however I would group him with Jordan and Thabeet in that they will either be a huge bust or a great grab. I'd rather wait til the 21st pick and decide by taking whoever falls.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 20 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 20 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My money's on Westbrook, Budinger, or CDR. Wouldn't be surprised if the Nets move down to get CDR, even though he's not a great shooter.</div> Do you realize how not good Westbrook really is? </div> He's more NBA ready than some of these bums getting by on upside.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 20 2008, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 20 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 20 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My money's on Westbrook, Budinger, or CDR. Wouldn't be surprised if the Nets move down to get CDR, even though he's not a great shooter.</div> Do you realize how not good Westbrook really is? </div> He's more NBA ready than some of these bums getting by on upside. </div> NBA ready is not really a priority for a team that is rebuilding.
rebuilding? In the eastern conference, you can become very competitive with some good moves. Look how much Horford has helped the Hawks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 20 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rebuilding? In the eastern conference, you can become very competitive with some good moves. Look how much Horford has helped the Hawks.</div> I don't care about being a low seed in the playoffs, I care about winning a championship...Boston and Detriot are by far the best teams in the east, while Toronto, Atlanta and Philadelphia are built with a young core that will get better over time...it's not a complete rebuild for us but it is partial.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Apr 20 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 20 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rebuilding? In the eastern conference, you can become very competitive with some good moves. Look how much Horford has helped the Hawks.</div> I don't care about being a low seed in the playoffs, I care about winning a championship...Boston and Detriot are by far the best teams in the east, while Toronto, Atlanta and Philadelphia are built with a young core that will get better over time...it's not a complete rebuild for us but it is partial. </div> Lebron James is 23 years old. Dwight Howard is 22. It ain't just Atlanta and Philly with young teams. The East could get competitive again and quickly. Thorn has a lot of work to do. The Nets got younger in the trade and will get younger still this off season, with Armstrong and Van Horn departing the roster and as many as three rookies joining it. This is the most critical off-season since 2001.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Apr 20 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Apr 20 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 20 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rebuilding? In the eastern conference, you can become very competitive with some good moves. Look how much Horford has helped the Hawks.</div> I don't care about being a low seed in the playoffs, I care about winning a championship...Boston and Detriot are by far the best teams in the east, while Toronto, Atlanta and Philadelphia are built with a young core that will get better over time...it's not a complete rebuild for us but it is partial. </div> Lebron James is 23 years old. Dwight Howard is 22. It ain't just Atlanta and Philly with young teams. The East could get competitive again and quickly. Thorn has a lot of work to do. The Nets got younger in the trade and will get younger still this off season, with Armstrong and Van Horn departing the roster and as many as three rookies joining it. This is the most critical off-season since 2001. </div> I can't see the Nets carrying three rookies plus "advanced rookies" Sean Williams and Mo Ager. In addition, the only second-rounder in the past ten years or so to do ANYTHING was Scalabrine, who was a very early second-round pick. Not a great record.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 20 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Apr 20 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Apr 20 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 20 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rebuilding? In the eastern conference, you can become very competitive with some good moves. Look how much Horford has helped the Hawks.</div> I don't care about being a low seed in the playoffs, I care about winning a championship...Boston and Detriot are by far the best teams in the east, while Toronto, Atlanta and Philadelphia are built with a young core that will get better over time...it's not a complete rebuild for us but it is partial. </div> Lebron James is 23 years old. Dwight Howard is 22. It ain't just Atlanta and Philly with young teams. The East could get competitive again and quickly. Thorn has a lot of work to do. The Nets got younger in the trade and will get younger still this off season, with Armstrong and Van Horn departing the roster and as many as three rookies joining it. This is the most critical off-season since 2001. </div> I can't see the Nets carrying three rookies plus "advanced rookies" Sean Williams and Mo Ager. In addition, the only second-rounder in the past ten years or so to do ANYTHING was Scalabrine, who was a very early second-round pick. Not a great record. </div> Boone, Marcus, Sean, Ager and 3 rookies would be a lot of youth on one roster.
I can't see us taking Jordan with Sean on the team; not because I think they're clones of one another, but because I can't see the team putting up with two athletes who are trying to become basketball players. I mean as talented as Sean is there was talks of management getting frustrated with his lack of experience. Why would they want two of those?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 20 2008, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't see us taking Jordan with Sean on the team; not because I think they're clones of one another, but because I can't see the team putting up with two athletes who are trying to become basketball players. I mean as talented as Sean is there was talks of management getting frustrated with his lack of experience. Why would they want two of those?</div> IMO they wont draft Jordan if we keep sean.. but if we plan to use him in a trade, then i can see them taking deandre because he is bigger and a bit more polished than sean. But personally i would keep sean and draft someone else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 20 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and a bit more polished than sean.</div> Jordan is not more polished than Sean; neither are refined.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 20 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 20 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and a bit more polished than sean.</div> Jordan is not more polished than Sean; neither are refined. </div> I watched a few Texas a&m games this year and he looked darn good. The only thing that i didnt get was that he kept disappearing from the game.. i mean for 5 minutes hed be the best on the court, and then you woulnd hear his name for another 10. Thats my only concern with him.. can he be consistant?And at least he doesnt look like hes about to fall apart everytime he runs But IMO he is more talented and athletic than Sean therefore a better player. But i still like AREA 51 alot. Its a tough call. Good thing im not the one to make it haha
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 20 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 20 2008, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't see us taking Jordan with Sean on the team; not because I think they're clones of one another, but because I can't see the team putting up with two athletes who are trying to become basketball players. I mean as talented as Sean is there was talks of management getting frustrated with his lack of experience. Why would they want two of those?</div> IMO they wont draft Jordan if we keep sean.. but if we plan to use him in a trade, then i can see them taking deandre because he is bigger and a bit more polished than sean. But personally i would keep sean and draft someone else. </div> He is so raw offensively he makes Josh Boone look like Shaq. btw does anyone else think Patrick O'Bryant when they look at DeAndre Jordan? I do.
I really hope it's not Westbrook. I live in LA and watched a lot of his games. Very average player. He's not a shooting guard or a point, so what is he? A tweener. Tweeners don't last in the NBA. Definitely not worth a 1st round pick. Plus, who was the last really good NBA player UCLA produced other than Farmar, who's a role player at this point. Most of their players are overhyped and under produce in the NBA. Remember Ed O'bannon?
