<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 11 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 11 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So what if he's seen worse? That doesn't make this funny. Hawks, you really strike me as an odd member. At one point you were acting emoish and letting us know that you weren't "eating" at home, then you started fussing about some beef that you had with your mom. I just don't understand what the deal is with you.</div> Not everyone has life all that easy. </div> It looks like a way to attract attention...on a message board. </div> Possibly. Probably. Some people like to let things out in the open, to make themselves known to others. Personally, I don't have a problem with that. And appearently, it bothers others more than I'd expect. Not anything wrong with that, you're free to feel how you wanna feel.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Apr 11 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He mocks her situation.</div> I disagree. You are interpreting it as mocking and o.iatl has clearly stated that wasn't his intent.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Apr 11 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He mocks her situation.</div> Well, aren't you the bigger man.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 11 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 11 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So what if he's seen worse? That doesn't make this funny. Hawks, you really strike me as an odd member. At one point you were acting emoish and letting us know that you weren't "eating" at home, then you started fussing about some beef that you had with your mom. I just don't understand what the deal is with you.</div> Not everyone has life all that easy. </div> It looks like a way to attract attention...on a message board. </div> Possibly. Probably. Some people like to let things out in the open, to make themselves known to others. Personally, I don't have a problem with that. And appearently, it bothers others more than I'd expect. Not anything wrong with that, you're free to feel how you wanna feel. </div> He just has some personal issues he needs to deal with. I'm just basing this off what I see here, so I can't imagine what the deal is in the real world with him. Or perhaps I can, since he has shared many experiences with us.
Guys just let it go. He knows what he meant, he's not stupid. huevon, I understand your side and I know what you mean, bro. You find it unacceptable that o.iatl is so nonchalant about an issue such as this. Well, if he grew up seeing stuff like this, he is going to be in a way less empathetic then you or I, IMO. I'm not saying what you said is wrong and on a lot of terms I agree with you, but this is just how he feels and we have to let that go. Joker, I don't really think he is getting attention. He just wants to tell someone and he's telling us, that's fine. Ignore it if you want too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Apr 11 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He mocks her situation.</div> Well, aren't you the bigger man. </div> Why do I have to be the bigger man? He doesn't deserve civil treatment because of his past with me. He insulted her imo. I've got less patience with him because of the dubious videos I've seen him post. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Apr 11 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He mocks her situation.</div> I disagree. You are interpreting it as mocking and o.iatl has clearly stated that wasn't his intent. </div> I use the term "mock" loosely cpawfan. You stated what I believe in your last post about the "big point".
Certainly I hope to avoid conflicts with him in the future, but I am quite passionate in this case. That's the gist of the issue.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Apr 11 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Certainly I hope to avoid conflicts with him in the future, but I am quite passionate in this case. That's the gist of the issue.</div> I know you're passionate as I'm sure a lot of us are. I also know you understand when you should just ignore something that really bothers you. I have to do it all the time here, and I do just because it's not worth it. But I'm with you on this, it's really bad what happened to this girl. But girls have always fought over the stupidest shit and they have no remorse. Like guys will go 1 on 1 and they know when to stop. Girls just don't care and go all out. It's stupid as hell, but it happens.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 11 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't it a good sign that people are still outraged by things like this?</div> It's also a bad sign that people get outraged by things like this, and yet we rarely hear people get outraged about the people who actually die on the streets; and the people who die in Iraq.
I want to get BR in this thread: "Man, we niggas c'n dis tipe of shit in da hood daley!!" And by hood, I mean "TV"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 11 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't it a good sign that people are still outraged by things like this?</div> It's also a bad sign that people get outraged by things like this, and yet we rarely hear people get outraged about the people who actually die on the streets; and the people who die in Iraq. </div> I'm upset by all of that, except you don't usually see some kid walk into a thread like that and say, "we shouldn't be outraged" or something to that effect. We also have this taped, and it's long and hard to watch. That's not always the case with horrible crimes. It's all sad of course but this thread is under unique circumstances. Don't generalize this thread. It's not just the crime that upsets me, but rather the attitude of certain people towards it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 11 2008, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want to get BR in this thread: "Man, we niggas c'n dis tipe of shit in da hood daley!!" And by hood, I mean "TV"</div> Even though this is bad, I would lawl if he said that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 11 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't it a good sign that people are still outraged by things like this?</div> It's also a bad sign that people get outraged by things like this, and yet we rarely hear people get outraged about the people who actually die on the streets; and the people who die in Iraq. </div> Well like huevon said, it's filmed and you can put yourself in her shoes I guess more so then an Iraqi solider. It's like when thousands of people die and society says "Oh, that's horrible." But if a baby or dog dies, it's a lot worse. It's sad, but it's true. And like I said, people are way more sympathetic for a dog or teenager or small child then a full grown adult who can make better decisions and who can protect themselves.
My take on this: The "LOL" in the title was a bad decision. But you guys know hawksfan, he ends everything in LOL. I probably should have deleted my post after CPaw fixed the description. I don't think he was being nonchalant, but more confused on why we (rightfully so) flipped a shit over this, but not the crimes the occur every single day. He could, and should have, worded it better. He never said that the fight wasn't wrong, because it was, and he knows it. Again, the wording was wrong.
Ah and to reiterate, hawksfan also criticized this girl's fighting skills. And he actually thinks she could have beat them all with a belt or plate of some sort. That was rude towards the victim.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>According to investigators, Lindsay was attacked about 8:30 p.m. on March 30 by April Cooper, Cara Murphy, Britney Mayes, Brittini Hardcastle, Kayla Hassell and Mercades Nichols, while two boys, Zachary Ashley and Stephen Schumaker, stood outside the house as lookouts. The girls and Ashley ranged in age from 14 to 17 years old. All have been arrested and charged with felony battery and false imprisonment. The single adult, Schumaker, 18, was taken to the Polk County Jail and has since been released on bail. The Sheriff's Office said after the 35-minute beating, Lindsay was put into a car and taken to South Lakeland, near the intersection of Lakeland Highlands Road and County Road 540A. Mayes, Hardcastle, and Nichols, who deputies said forced Lindsay into a vehicle and drove her around, will also be charged with felony kidnapping, sheriff's officials said. Judd has asked the State Attorney's Office to charge all the teens as adults. "But that's not my decision," he said. Patrick Lindsay, who still refuses to look at the taped beating, is advocating for removal of these types of videos from Internet sites like MySpace and YouTube. "As far as I am concerned, MySpace is the anti-Christ for children," he said. "I hope this comes to a final resolution. I am not going to stop here." Lindsay, her father acknowledges, wasn't perfect and had her share of problems, and was not living at home at the time of the incident. After an argument with her parents, Lindsay had been living with Nichols for about a week when the beating occurred. While she was well-liked among her friends, an honor student and maintained a job, her father said, she also had a history of anger problems. A few years ago she had a fight with her mother, and had been put on probation, he said. Judd said investigators suspect there were as many five video clips of the incident taken by more than one camera. Investigators have only been able to track down one. That video, which was made available to the media, shows several girls taunting and hitting Lindsay, who was not seen fighting back. Judd said the video obtained by investigators shows only the latter half of what happened. What happened earlier isn't part of the video. Following their arrests the girls joked in a holding cell. One asked if she would be able to make it to cheerleading practice the next day, while several others joked that they wouldn't be making it back to the beach anytime soon, he said. "They seemed to have absolutely no remorse at all," Judd said. "They were just going to beat her. And beat her they did."</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 11 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't it a good sign that people are still outraged by things like this?</div> It's also a bad sign that people get outraged by things like this, and yet we rarely hear people get outraged about the people who actually die on the streets; and the people who die in Iraq. </div> I think people are extremely outraged by those things.
Patrick Lyndsey is an asshole. He should be kissing My Space's ass for helping prosecute the idiots who attacked the messed up child he kicked out of his house.
