OT Either stop locking threads or close the OT forum down

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I gave it a like because I too NEVER heard it used in a racial sense. It was straight up hillbilly talk. I grew up in inner southeast Portland (on the edge of what I considered the white “ghetto’). We didn’t have very many black people in my ‘hood, but we had more than our fair share of “hillbillies”. But again, I honestly thought @dviss1 was woofing when he called it rascist. And maybe it is since I associate it with “white trash”........
     
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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  3. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    It is only religious if used properly.

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  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    When you're talking to the guy who prefers "black", say "black". When you're talking to the guy who prefers "african-american", say "african-american". If you forget who is who and get it wrong, apologize and say it was an honest mistake.

    If a black person takes issue with a white person's hairstyle, then no, that person is not speaking for a whole group, and is being ridiculous.

    Who is right and wrong? To me it always comes down to are they making effort to be considerate or not?

    Nate and Cippy generally don't (seem to) care about how what they say makes other people feel. On the other hand, the same can often be said dviss in these race discussions. All would do well to make more effort to not escalate tensions.

    Basically--you all suck, and I'm the only reasonable person here.
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Isn't intent the main driving point behind insults? How else do slurs come to be? You take something that is totally harmless and make it into something hurtful. I mean.... Dan Issel was fired because he called someone a "Mexican piece of shit." When did calling someone a nationality become a slur? But it was, and it was all because of how he said it. Or you could be like New York and just take a slur and make it your baseball team name.

     
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  6. Nate

    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    This is what I’ve been gathering.

    Dviss is a loud, angry, black man; so it’s ok for him to say racist stuff, hat might offend a lot of people.

    BUT

    I’m one of those more edumacated h’white folk, so I’m held to a higher moral standard.

    Is that what’s going on?
     
  7. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    I would say "no" simply because I would not have held the first part of the bolded sentence to be true of you.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    But Riverman basically said that if it comes from a black guy, he takes it as gospel. So it's not as simple as calling that one guy black and the other guy African American. If you take the word of one person, he would henceforth call all people African American because he doesn't ask questions.

    My point from the beginning is whether one person can make that determination. Obviously there are some words/insults that are universally accepted as being racist. Nobody would dispute that. But when one person tells me that a word is racist, and everything I have heard is to the contrary, I'm going to want some justification.

    Hell, for the longest time I thought cracker was because we're white...... like a cracker. But I later found out that it's about the sound a whip makes. I did not know that until maybe a few years ago. So if Dviss had a justifiable reason why edumacate was racist, I just wanted to hear it.
     
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  9. Nate

    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    Where does the double standard come from then?
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No, not at all. I think most of the stuff he says that you call racist, isn't. I read through the Ball thread. I don't know what you're objecting to in there. But if you'd like to PM me with specific examples, I'd be happy to discuss them with you.
     
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  11. Chris Craig

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    Yeah it sucks that people take everyday words or phrases and turn them into a racist slur because once a slur always a slur. So if someone calls an African American a chocolate ice cream then its a slur and I can no longer say I want a chocolate ice cream out loud around an african american or they'll be like what the hell did you just say...you racist son of a bitch. Then I'll be like sorry I'll take the vanilla. Then they'll say, "you racist son of a bitch."
     
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  12. Nate

    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    But you’re ok with the portion that you think is racist.
     
  13. SlyPokerDog

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    When people insult me for changing their personal insults so they insult me.
     
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    And in my mind, that focuses too much on the academia, and minimizes the human aspect. I think it's excessive for dviss to say that the term was "racism 101". But if I say something that he or anyone else tells me offends them at a racial level, I'll accept that without question, because I'm more concerned with being in right relationship with that person than with just "being right".
     
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  15. Nate

    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    So you’d rather let someone perpetuate retarded bullshit, than have an open conversation with him?

    You think the convo might not go well or something?
     
  16. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Truth. Only one person in here, as a FUCKING, 6 Year old, had an ashtray dumped their head and been told they were gonna go to prison when they grow up.
    Dog, I really want someone to quote thus so called hate I "spew"
     
  17. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No, I'm not. But I also know that he and I have different definitions of the term, so it would most likely be fruitless for me to try to convince him that something I see as racist is so. That doesn't mean that I think it's OK, appropriate, or promotes healthy conversation. However, I've learned long ago that my standards for what should be OK in this forum differ from most others.
     
  18. SlyPokerDog

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    Dog?
     
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  19. Nate

    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    As long as we can all agree, that we’re just letting someone openly be a hateful person.

    Thank you for admitting that he says racist shit though.
     
  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I would disagree with hateful. Frustrated, angry at times, but not hateful. But that's my perspective.
     
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