OT El Paso shooting: 22 Dead, 24 Inured. Dayton shooting: 9 Dead, 16 Injured

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  1. Fez Forthright

    Fez Forthright スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig Blazersland Staff Member Moderator

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    That's about it
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Chris Craig Blazersland Staff Member Moderator

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    I didn't associate you with anyone. The shooters of both these attacks yesterday are White Nationalist Trump Fans with Assault rifles. It's what it is
     
  5. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig Blazersland Staff Member Moderator

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    No they are not. We need to stop this shit.
     
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    theprunetang Bow down before Simons; basketball Jesus.

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    MARIS61 Real American

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    50 years of Socialists running our public schools has successfully created a populace that never learned anything about freedom in America.

    Anyone and everyone who claims The Second Amendment applies only to certain weapons, only to certain people, only to the military...is either a purposeful liar, has a poor grasp of the English language, or (the majority) is completely ignorant of US History and the reasons why and methods used to ensure this country was created and would be able to prevent tyranny from our government.

    If you don't like that, we have a legislative process you can pursue to attempt to repeal The Second Amendment.

    It will fail miserably because you are part of a very loud, but small herd of sheep and Real Americans know Our Bill of Rights and Constitution makes us the closest thing on Earth to a free country. Nobody else comes close.

    But, if you actually succeeded in repealing it, you've accomplished nothing. Our Bill Of Rights does not grant any rights, it merely re-affirms that all Americans are born free and these rights are inherent at birth. They are permanent as long as we breathe.

    200 million Real Americans will still have upwards of 800 million guns.

    Are you actually so evil you would murder 200 million American men, women and children, and an untold number of American military and LEOs?

    Because that's the only possible result to your silly parlor game.

    Now THAT's a mass "shooting"!
     
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  8. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    So being a supporter of the President, and owning an AK-47. Sounds to me like guilt by association.

    I don't know about you, but I've never blamed Jusuf Nurkic for terrorist atrocities committed by ISIS in the Middle East just because he's Muslim.
     
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  9. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig Blazersland Staff Member Moderator

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    If your feeling guilty, that's on you
     
  10. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    I don't feel guilty at all. I'm disgusted that a moderator on a forum is allowed to label those whom he disagrees with as being white supremacists and terrorists.
     
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  11. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig Blazersland Staff Member Moderator

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    I never called you a white supremacist or a terrorist. Or anyone on here for that matter.

    I pointed out the shooters are white nationalist/supremacist Trump Lovers with assault rifles. Fact.
     
  12. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    So you agree then that those who support Trump and own guns are not white supremacists or terrorists?
     
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    Chris Craig Blazersland Staff Member Moderator

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    Not all of them no. I never said that. I said these shooters are. If that associates you or anyone on here with them. That is not on me.
     
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    I think many of us have been guilty of making generalizations at times that weren't reflective of the members of this community. That said, as long as Chris or any staff member doesn't violate the personal insult rule they are free to post their opinions. Being staff doesn't make them give that up.
     
  15. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Thank you for clarifying.

    Unfortunately it seems like fringe elements from both sides are becoming more prevalent. I hope this isn't the case. I would like to think that 90% of this country is still good people with rational minds.
     
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    I appreciate that, thank you. He clarified his position on the matter. Perhaps a little too much generalization for me personally, but yes, many of us are guilty of this from time to time. And this topic is indeed a hot-button issue that brings out emotions on all sides.
     
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    I love you!
     
  18. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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  19. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Your site your rules but it’s weird to me that I can insult large groups of people because thats my opinion but I cant insult an individual, so basically if I want to insult you, I just insult Dogs in general and then run off and say well, I didn't say YOU!

    Again, I try to abide by the rules here and be respectful to people whether I agree with them or not but it seems like thats how the “insults” usually happen, and why people feel insulted, its because if you, “describe” generalities and I fall into them, then you throw out insults, wouldn't any logical person or dog, take that as an insult?

    is it ok to insult all blacks, whites, whatever as long as I don't put a name on it?

    I mean there are posts in this thread that paint all Autistic people as basically crazy unsafe people, posts in here are very emotionally charged (for good reason), but saying just generally insult everyone seems, like were also allowing vague personal/not personal insults.
     
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    You insult someone personally it leads to a straight up argument and back and forth name calling. Insulting a group of people doesn't really generate the same hate and volatility. It's all about promoting healthy and fun discussions and debates with as few of rules as possible. It never will be perfect. We will never catch or prevent everything. It can be a bit of a challenge because this isn't just some place to talk on the internet. This is a community of passionate fans that often meets in public. That is a huge part of the personal insult rule.

    It's a big reason why I tell staff that we are more like firemen than cops. We're not looking to arrest people and enforce the laws, we're looking to put out fires and arguments.
     

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