Politics Elizabeth Warren doubles down

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  1. Sedatedfork

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    I don't think she actually ever received any benefits for having minority heritage. I remember watching some special about it months ago. And it showed she declared herself caucasian. And then at some point it changed, but this was after she was already admitted into law school, or something like that. Anyway, if anyone has a good source showing she benefitted, let me know. I would be interested in reading about it.
     
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    I'll eat 1/562 of a crow.
     
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    Correction: Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 10th generation relative. It should be 1/1,024.
     
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    Nah - they will just claim the test was faked. The reichwing has lost all sense of honesty or shame and there is no reason to expect them to change now.
     
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    Yeah, I honestly have no idea how it works. Native American heritage and benefits are not something I know much about. One of my friends says he has Blackfeet heritage, but that his ancestor wasn't on the tribe registry so he couldn't get benefits. That's purely anecdotal. He said that he had looked into it.

    Honestly, I really don't care one way or the other about Warren's heritage. It's really up to the Tribes to decide if they care because she's claiming heritage.
     
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    So if the average American with heritage that dates back to the 1700s did this test, what would it show?
     
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    What do you mean by 'heritage that dates back to the 1700s'?

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    A local news site said she had 1/32nd, which isn't enough for most tribes to take her unless it's one of those east coast tribes that were completely decimated.

    She has more than I thought she would, I'll admit it, but not enough to be "indian".
     
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    Sorry, I mean heritage in North America that dates back to the 1700s. For example, I have relatives that fought in the Revolutionary War.
     
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    She didn't ask/apply/claim to be a tribal member. She just said that she had some Native in her ancestry, which she does.

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    But why bring it up in the first place? It’s not like her grandma grew up on the reservation.
     
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    So your question is, are all whites part Native, if they've got ancestors who were in the US back then?
    I don't know the answer, but I'd guess not.

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    I’m just curious if you did DNA tests on every person with heritage dating back to that era, what percentage would have Native American ancestry?
     
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    She didn't bring it up. Republicans brought it up as a way to attack her.

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    She brought it up at some point, otherwise nobody would have known about it.
     
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    She checked a box on university forms years ago. Republican opposition researchers found those forms and publicized them.

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    A lot of tribes like mine also require you to have some genealogy/family trees proving it too. Mine is so strict they only take you if you're under 2 years old and can prove lineage to two women from the early 1800s (my family can't so I don't get any benefits).
     
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    That's interesting. So your tribe only dates back to 1800? Where did those 2 women come from?

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    So that seems like a totally valid thing to question. When you choose a career in public office, you open yourself up to scrutiny. If someone was to claim military service, they don’t get to be indignant if someone asks them to verify it. Whether it’s on a college form, job application or just off the cuff.
     

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