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  1. cpawfan

    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jul 2 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that scares me about the Nets rebuilding process, and it was driven home on draft night, is Rod and Kiki being the ones making the decisions on the lottery picks the next 2 seasons</div>

    who should they have taken on draft night?
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    Bayless over Lopez and that really is the one that frightens me the most about future drafts. It gave me flash backs to Kiki's picks in 2002.

    Several players over Anderson (who I like) but I'll highlight Koufos and Batum. Especially because it was well known that Batum was desired by the Spurs, he could have been used by Rod as trade bait.

    CDR was a damn fine pick in the second.
     
  2. syc514

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    signing kwame makes absolutely no sense, especially given the glut of big men we have. We should be looking to move/let go another big, not sign another big, especially one that has never been good and has attitude problems with his teammates.

    the rebuilding process has been exciting and i've been in support of all the recent moves, but signing kwame would make absolutely no sense. we should see if j.r. wants in, but if not, i think we're fine just going ahead with the roster we have. we have a lot of young players who i personally want to see get some court time this season and next season so they'll be a lot better in 2010, making our team competitive, and increasing our chances of landing bronbron
     
  3. ly_yng

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 2 2008, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jul 2 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that scares me about the Nets rebuilding process, and it was driven home on draft night, is Rod and Kiki being the ones making the decisions on the lottery picks the next 2 seasons</div>

    who should they have taken on draft night?
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    Bayless over Lopez and that really is the one that frightens me the most about future drafts. It gave me flash backs to Kiki's picks in 2002.

    Several players over Anderson (who I like) but I'll highlight Koufos and Batum. Especially because it was well known that Batum was desired by the Spurs, he could have been used by Rod as trade bait.

    CDR was a damn fine pick in the second.
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    I'm interested in breaking down the Lopez vs. Bayless thing.

    What type of player do you see Bayless becoming? We've got a logjam at the guard spots currently with Harris and Carter, and if we're going to rebuild here, we should be getting our rookies some minutes. If they aren't moved before the trading deadline, then Bayless' whole rookie season would basically be a waste.

    So one of the two has to go. What realistic situation trading one of those two players (or both) puts them in the best possible spot for landing a premier free agent in 2010?
     
  4. #1_Josh_Boone_Fan

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    Guys relax. We have some good young talent now we are going to watch it develope right in front of our eyes.
     
  5. soul driver

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    I'm more interested in seeing our guys devleop, form good chemistry and individual play and friendships this season, than rather have them win. Winning would be a bonus.
    Brown would take that all away though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (syc514 @ Jul 2 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>signing kwame makes absolutely no sense, especially given the glut of big men we have. We should be looking to move/let go another big, not sign another big, especially one that has never been good and has attitude problems with his teammates.</div>

    Tells me the Nets anticipate moving at least one of the big guys under contract, and don't really expect Krstic or Diop to return.

    That leaves the roster with Brook Lopez as the only "true" center, with Boone and/or Swift as the undersized backups (and probably among the more likely to be traded).
     
  7. Cmoney707

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jul 2 2008, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 2 2008, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jul 2 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that scares me about the Nets rebuilding process, and it was driven home on draft night, is Rod and Kiki being the ones making the decisions on the lottery picks the next 2 seasons</div>

    who should they have taken on draft night?
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    Bayless over Lopez and that really is the one that frightens me the most about future drafts. It gave me flash backs to Kiki's picks in 2002.

    Several players over Anderson (who I like) but I'll highlight Koufos and Batum. Especially because it was well known that Batum was desired by the Spurs, he could have been used by Rod as trade bait.

    CDR was a damn fine pick in the second.
    </div>

    I'm interested in breaking down the Lopez vs. Bayless thing.

    What type of player do you see Bayless becoming? We've got a logjam at the guard spots currently with Harris and Carter, and if we're going to rebuild here, we should be getting our rookies some minutes. If they aren't moved before the trading deadline, then Bayless' whole rookie season would basically be a waste.

    So one of the two has to go. What realistic situation trading one of those two players (or both) puts them in the best possible spot for landing a premier free agent in 2010?
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    No we have a log jam at the 4 and 5. If Bayless were the pick he would get more minutes than Lopez is going to see. Antoine Wright was getting 25 minutes, Bayless would be seeing at least that because he would be able to play the 1 and 2. Why do you think Bayless' rookie season here would've been a waste? That makes no sense. He shouldn't of came in here expecting to start, and I don't think any logical fan would expect that either with or without Carter and Harris on the team.
     
  8. DownWithMSG

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    I'm ok with a two year plan. No need to add crazy contracts in a bid for a first round loss. Believe me, that's not a situation any team wants to be in.
     
  9. Netted

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    Not the end that's for sure. Only the beginning.

    That Kwame thing is good for a laugh... as long as they don't actually sign him. Better not be Kiki's next "fallen angel"?

    Everyone acts like we need to replace Jefferson with another 20+ppg scorer. I'm stoked to see the NJ Nets next year and not the VC and RJ show. You'll see a bunch of players score in the mid teens on any given night with just VC in the 20+ range.

    Dave D keeps lamenting their ability to put up 80 a night, does he not realize they added a bunch of players that can shoot? The key is getting these young guys to buy into playing tough defense and sacrificing their bodies.
     
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    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jul 2 2008, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 2 2008, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jul 2 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that scares me about the Nets rebuilding process, and it was driven home on draft night, is Rod and Kiki being the ones making the decisions on the lottery picks the next 2 seasons</div>

    who should they have taken on draft night?
    </div>

    Bayless over Lopez and that really is the one that frightens me the most about future drafts. It gave me flash backs to Kiki's picks in 2002.

    Several players over Anderson (who I like) but I'll highlight Koufos and Batum. Especially because it was well known that Batum was desired by the Spurs, he could have been used by Rod as trade bait.

    CDR was a damn fine pick in the second.
    </div>

    I'm interested in breaking down the Lopez vs. Bayless thing.

    What type of player do you see Bayless becoming? We've got a logjam at the guard spots currently with Harris and Carter, and if we're going to rebuild here, we should be getting our rookies some minutes. If they aren't moved before the trading deadline, then Bayless' whole rookie season would basically be a waste.

    So one of the two has to go. What realistic situation trading one of those two players (or both) puts them in the best possible spot for landing a premier free agent in 2010?
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    Especially with RJ traded, Vince could play minutes at SF with both Harris and Bayless in the backcourt. That would be far more effective than what the Nets can put out on the floor right now.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 2 2008, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jul 2 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that scares me about the Nets rebuilding process, and it was driven home on draft night, is Rod and Kiki being the ones making the decisions on the lottery picks the next 2 seasons</div>

    who should they have taken on draft night?
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    Bayless over Lopez and that really is the one that frightens me the most about future drafts. It gave me flash backs to Kiki's picks in 2002.

    Several players over Anderson (who I like) but I'll highlight Koufos and Batum. Especially because it was well known that Batum was desired by the Spurs, he could have been used by Rod as trade bait.

    CDR was a damn fine pick in the second.
    </div>

    If CDR turns out to be the best player of the 3, which I think will happen, it could be taken as a positive. Depends how good he turns out to be, I guess. I like the idea of taking Batum because the Spurs wanted him; it could have worked into a whole ****ing over the Spurs on draft night theme.
     
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    im goin to go out on the limb and say ryan anderson become the best out of the 3
     
  13. #1_Josh_Boone_Fan

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    This team could be very good

    Swat and Boone step it up to where I expect

    Marcus and Devin work together

    VC becomes the old VC

    Our Rookies learn their roles and give it there all.
     
  14. go nets

    go nets The Future

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    Hey i know evryone here including myself is down on Brown. But imagine if we can get him on a 2yr deal for real cheap and he actually becomes the high touted player he was supposed to be. That would be worth the risk.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 2 2008, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey i know evryone here including myself is down on Brown. But imagine if we can get him on a 2yr deal for real cheap and he actually becomes the high touted player he was supposed to be. That would be worth the risk.</div>

    Kiki is that you?
     
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    2.4 mill for 2 years [​IMG] is what i offer brown... maybe hes good in practice
     
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    Boone
    Stromile
    Sean
    Krstic
    Brook
    Yi

    ...I don't see Kwame being able to beat out any of those guys for minutes, so what's the point?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 2 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boone
    Stromile
    Sean
    Krstic
    Brook
    Yi

    ...I don't see Kwame being able to beat out any of those guys for minutes, so what's the point?</div>

    I agree with you, but lets say Kristic is traded for a wing/guard and we use Swift in a trade. That would leave us with just Swat, Boone, Yi, Lopez
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 2 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 2 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boone
    Stromile
    Sean
    Krstic
    Brook
    Yi

    ...I don't see Kwame being able to beat out any of those guys for minutes, so what's the point?</div>

    I agree with you, but lets say Kristic is traded for a wing/guard and we use Swift in a trade. That would leave us with just Swat, Boone, Yi, Lopez
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    You guys forgot Anderson.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 2 2008, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jul 2 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that scares me about the Nets rebuilding process, and it was driven home on draft night, is Rod and Kiki being the ones making the decisions on the lottery picks the next 2 seasons</div>

    who should they have taken on draft night?
    </div>

    Bayless over Lopez and that really is the one that frightens me the most about future drafts. It gave me flash backs to Kiki's picks in 2002.

    Several players over Anderson (who I like) but I'll highlight Koufos and Batum. Especially because it was well known that Batum was desired by the Spurs, he could have been used by Rod as trade bait.

    CDR was a damn fine pick in the second.
    </div>

    ha! no disagreements from me there...

    in fact, i thought the draft should have gone:
    1. bayless
    2. koufos
    3. cdr

    that being said, i think the nets didn't do too bad, but only because they got lucky with cdr falling to #40...
     

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