End Of Season Award Predictions

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  1. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    MVP- Nash... Runners Up: Nowitzki and Billups
    ROY: Definetly Chris Paul... Runners up: Raymond Felton and Villanueva
    Most Improved:Boris Diaw Runners up: David West and Mike James
    DPOY: AK-47
    6th Man: Mike Miller
    Coach Of the Year: Avery Johnson
     
  2. Riot

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    M.V.P. - Steve Nash will probably repeat.
    Rookie Of The Year - CP3, no doubt.
    Most Improved Player - Boris Diaw, he really has improved the most.
    Defensive Player Of The Year - Hmm.. I'm going with AK-47.
    6th Man - Not sure, I would say Maurice Williams, but he's only played 56 games, so I'm going with Mike Miller.
    Coach Of The Year - Avery Johnson
     
  3. phunDamentalz

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    MVP: KOBE, Dwayne Wade runner up
    ROY: Chris Paul
    MIP: Boris Diaw or Mike James or Dwight Howard
    6th: Stackhouse, (it should be Zo in terms of impact on a game)
    COACH: Avery Johnson
    EXEC OF THE YEAR: the Clippers GM
    DEFENSIVE PLAYER: Bruce Bowen FINALLY
     
  4. Jerry West

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    For those mentioning Dirk for MVP, where do you place Elton Brand?

    I argue that Brand has had a better year and believe statistics show he's been as good, if not better.

    Dirk: 26.6ppg, 9rpg, 2.8apg, .7spg, 1bpg
    Elton: 25ppg, 10rpg, 2.7apg, 1spg, 2.6bpg

    So basically Dirk scores 2 points more per night, but Elton has more rebounds and averages well over double the blocks.

    Elton has been just as effective offensively, and is a superior defender yet he won't even get mentioned in MVP voting.
     
  5. Jerry West

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">
    6th Man: Caron Butler
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    Butler has started 51 of his 72 games, so isn't even close to being eligible.
     
  6. Da Nang Thang

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    MVP - Steve Nash
    Rookie Of The Year - Chris Paul, no brainer
    Most Improved Player - Boris Diaw
    Defensive Player Of The Year - Gerald Wallace or AK47
    6th Man - Mike Miller
    Coach Of The Year - Flip Saunders
     
  7. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">For those mentioning Dirk for MVP, where do you place Elton Brand?

    I argue that Brand has had a better year and believe statistics show he's been as good, if not better.

    Dirk: 26.6ppg, 9rpg, 2.8apg, .7spg, 1bpg
    Elton: 25ppg, 10rpg, 2.7apg, 1spg, 2.6bpg

    So basically Dirk scores 2 points more per night, but Elton has more rebounds and averages well over double the blocks.

    Elton has been just as effective offensively, and is a superior defender yet he won't even get mentioned in MVP voting.</div>
    I love Brand, but the Mavs have like +13 wins on us. Brand has been getting mentioned though, and if the Clips had been on pace for 50+ it would help. Right now they can still get 49 though.
     
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    M.V.P - Dirk Nowitzki
    Rookie Of The Year - Chris Paul
    Most Improved - Boris Diaw
    Defensive Player Of The Year - Gerald Wallace (Ben's been too inconsistent for my liking)
    6th Man - Speedy Claxton
    Coach Of The Year - Avery Johnson
     
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    Kobe Mvp!!!
     
  10. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I love Brand, but the Mavs have like +13 wins on us. Brand has been getting mentioned though, and if the Clips had been on pace for 50+ it would help. Right now they can still get 49 though.</div>

    Exactly. It's not just a question of stats, or else Chauncey Billups wouldn't even be mentioned. Dirk has led the Mavericks to the third best record in the NBA, whereas Brand has led the Clippers to a probably sixth seed. Dirk's the perfect compromise for those who want an MVP who has led their team to a great record and those who want an MVP who has consistently filled up the stat sheet. The only other player on his level in terms of both stats and team success is LeBron James. It's more or less a tossup for me to pick between the two.

    JW, if you consider Brand the MVP, then where would you rate Gasol? Both the Grizzlies and the Clippers have the same record, and their numbers aren't dramatically different. Brand averages a few more points and rebounds, but Gasol's assist numbers are much better (4.6 apg is #2 in the league for big men, only Brad Miller averages more by 0.2; Pau is also #1 in the league for total assists for big men).
     
  11. Jerry West

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">
    JW, if you consider Brand the MVP, then where would you rate Gasol? </div>

    When did i say i considered Brand the MVP?

    I simply raised his name and said he is entitled to be mentioned in the same breath as Dirk Nowitzki.

    LeBron should be the MVP, and by a margin.
     
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    MVP: LeBron James (runner-ups: Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade)
    ROY: Chris Paul (runner-ups: Raymond Felton, Charlie Villanueva, Channing Frye)
    MIP: Boris Diaw (runner-ups: David West, Smush Parker, Mike James)
    DPOY: Gerald Wallace (runner-ups: Andrei Kirilenko, Bruce Bowen, Andres Nocioni)
    6th Man: Mike Miller (runner-ups: Jerry Stackhouse, Maurice Williams, Speedy Claxton)
    COY: Avery Johnson (runner-ups: Mike D'Antoni, Flip Saunders, Mike Dunleavy)
     
  13. shor_T15

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    MVP: no brainer Steve Nash again.
    Rookie of the Year: Chris Paul
    Most Improved: Boris Diaw or Dwight Howard, Leaning toward Diaw
    6th man: Mike Miller
    Coach: Mike Dantoni again (Nobody can argue this one)
    Defensive Player of year: AK-47.
     
  14. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">When did i say i considered Brand the MVP?

    I simply raised his name and said he is entitled to be mentioned in the same breath as Dirk Nowitzki.

    LeBron should be the MVP, and by a margin.</div>

    My apologees. It seemed that's what you were implying. Still, the whole point is that Dirk's a higher rated MVP candidate not because of his stats, but because of his team's success.
     
  15. The One & Only

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    Why is everyone putting Dwayne Wade as MVP? Just a quck question. He isn't MVP material IMO.
     
  16. og15

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    Meh, I've only really seen him as a runner-up, nothing wrong with that, he's had a fine season, though there are some guys I'd rank over him.
     
  17. Jerry West

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">My apologees. It seemed that's what you were implying. Still, the whole point is that Dirk's a higher rated MVP candidate not because of his stats, but because of his team's success.</div>

    Whilst i agree that team success is a vital ingredient, if you used that logic to decide your MVP then it'd be a race between Detroit and San Antonio's best players, and guys like Bryant, Wade, LeBron wouldn't even get consideration.

    For me, if you get close to 50 wins you should have that 'team success' vote.
     
  18. NTC

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is everyone choosing Boris Diaw for Most Improved? I think Smush has just as strong an arguement if not more since the offense doesn't flow through Smush as much as through Diaw.......just my 2 cents....

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/boris_diaw/index.html
    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/smush_parker/index.html</div>

    Smush has 149 less points, 205 less assists and 288 less rebounds than Diaw, thats why. David West has a stronger case than Smush.
     
  19. Jerry West

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">Smush has 149 less points, 205 less assists and 288 less rebounds than Diaw, thats why. David West has a stronger case than Smush.</div>

    I'd have Diaw a long way in front of Smush as well, but using stats to justify a Phoenix player can be misleading.

    Their style and the Nash factor flatters everyones numbers.

    Just look at the changes in Diaw, Bell and hell, even Tim Thomas.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">Smush has 149 less points, 205 less assists and 288 less rebounds than Diaw, thats why. David West has a stronger case than Smush.</div>


    Well in my opinion West should win it, but in comparison to Smush and Diaw I said that Smush should win it over Diaw.
     

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