Politics Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Salon.com. Not a right wing site by far.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/21/eno..._ignore_reality_dream_of_worshipping_a_queen/

    Clinton voters overlook money lust, shadowy surrogates, sociopathic policy shifts, horrific overseas record. Why?

    CAMILLE PAGLIA

    What is it with the Hillary cult?

    As a lifelong Democrat who will be enthusiastically voting for Bernie Sanders in next week’s Pennsylvania primary, I have trouble understanding the fuzzy rosy filter through which Hillary fans see their champion. So much must be overlooked or discounted—from Hillary’s compulsive money-lust and her brazen indifference to normal rules to her conspiratorial use of shadowy surrogates and her sociopathic shape-shifting in policy positions for momentary expedience.

    Hillary’s breathtaking lack of concrete achievements or even minimal initiatives over her long public career doesn’t faze her admirers a whit. They have a religious conviction of her essential goodness and blame her blank track record on diabolical sexist obstructionists. When at last week’s debate Hillary crassly blamed President Obama for the disastrous Libyan incursion that she had pushed him into, her acolytes hardly noticed. They don’t give a damn about international affairs—all that matters is transgender bathrooms and instant access to abortion.

    I’m starting to wonder, given the increasing dysfunction of our democratic institutions, if the Hillary cult isn’t perhaps registering an atavistic longing for monarchy. Or perhaps it’s just a neo-pagan reversion to idolatry, as can be felt in the Little Italy street festival scene of The Godfather, Part II, where devout pedestrians pin money to the statue of San Rocco as it is carried by in procession. There was a strange analogy to that last week, when Sanders supporters satirically showered Hillary’s motorcade with dollar bills as she arrived at George Clooney’s luxe fund-raiser in Los Angeles.
     
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    Camille Paglia sums it up pretty well.

    Not that Trump has any achievements at all in the government sector.
     
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    Isn't it kind of funny for a Bernie supporter to be complaining about 'lack of concrete achievements'?

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    She's spot on with the things she mentioned (money lust, shadow surrogates, sociopathic EVERYTHING, and horrific overseas record).

    You've got one with a lack of achievements and another with a scary bad dangerous track record.

    Some choice.
     
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    Denny Crane, Apr 22, 2016
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    Glad to have you on board, Denny! When did you turn against Wall Street and rich people?
     
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    She released her tax returns from 2007-2014. $15 million in donations, $14.9 million of it to her own foundation and initiative. That's like if I took money from my wallet and put it in my bank account.

    Crooked Hillary!
     
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    That was my first thought but actually it's not crooked.

    Bill Gates donates money to his foundation and then the foundation gives that money to other charities. That's what Hillary is doing with her foundation.

    What is crooked is the Clinton Foundation does pay for a lot of her personal travel expenses. Fly to city X to give a $200,000 speech to some company and while there spend 5mins doing a photo opp at a kindergarten for the Clinton Foundation and the Foundation pays for the travel, limo and hotel stay.

    That's not actually crooked, just scummy.
     
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    Are you sure that's where her money is going via the foundation?
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean?

    Has her foundation paid her traveling expenses? The article I read said it has. It can't now while she is running for president.
     
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    I meant is the money going to other charities through her foundation? Is there proof of that?
     
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    Yes, lots of proof. They are a legitimate foundation.

    https://www.clintonfoundation.org/

    (And for the record, posting that doesn't mean I like or support the Clinton Foundation or Hillary Clinton.)
     
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    ----Between 2009 and 2012, the Clinton Foundation raised over $500 million dollars according to a review of IRS documents by The Federalist (2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008). 15 percent of that, or $75 million, went towards programmatic grants. More than $25 million went to fund travel expenses. Nearly $110 million went toward employee salaries and benefits. $290 million during that period, nearly 60 percent of all money raised, was classified merely as 'other expenses.' Official IRS forms do not list cigar or dry-cleaning expenses as a specific line item. The Clinton Foundation may well be saving lives, but it seems odd that the costs of so many life-saving activities would be classified by the organization itself as just random, miscellaneous expenses.----

    Interesting.
     
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    Hahaha nice
     
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    A cult is a relatively small group. Hillary supporters are in the majority.
     
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    All rich people, and most upper middle class older people, have trusts. They put their income into them, and draw out expenses. The Clinton foundaton sounds like a big trust, except that some of its income is from people outside the family. It's very typical of rich people to have this, especally rich public ones.
     
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