Politics Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Wow, all that and you end with "No date has been provided as to when she deleted her “private” emails, but it is presumed to be around this time frame."

    Presumed?

    Tell us, Judge Crane, is the defendant presumed innocent, or presumed guilty in this country?

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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Does it matter, barfo?

    She printed out the emails, so they had to exist on the server (not deleted) long after investigators were interested in them.

    In the case of spoliation, guilty until proven innocent.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, none of this matters. It's all a conservative gotcha fantasy which will, in the end, just make y'all look petty.

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  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    If she was standing over a bloody corpse with the bloody knife in her hand and only her fingerprints on the knife, you'd say it was a gotcha fantasy.

    That's where the cult thing comes in. She walks on water, as far as you're concerned.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/04/24/the-phony-quid-pro-quo-standard/

    Hillary destroyed thousands of e-mails about her “private” dealings. Destruction of evidence — not to mention leaving foreign donations off the foundation’s tax returns (recall that McDonnell left the “loans” off bank documents) — tends to underscore that the couple was hiding something and that the evidence in those e-mails or the entities listed on the tax returns would have been incriminating. In the case of the e-mails there is a legal concept known as “spoliation of evidence.” In short, if a court finds that a party has destroyed evidence, it is permissible to assume that it would have proven guilt. (“[C]ourts have long employed the adverse inference jury instruction or ‘spoliation inference,’ to sanction spoliation of evidence. Under this inference, the jury is instructed that it may assume that the lost evidence, if available, would have been unfavorable to the spoliator.”) Again, we are not in court, but the common-sense inference that many voters and the media may make is that destroying the e-mails was in essence a cover-up.
     
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    Nope. She's far from my ideal candidate. But she's been investigated pretty heavily and nothing has come of any of it. Something about false alarms and wolves here.

    Why does Hillary lying offend you so much more than Trump lying? Is it a cult thing?

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  7. Denny Crane

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    Nothing has come of it? It's still an ongoing investigation. If there was nothing wrong here, there'd have been no reason to investigate at all.

    I just ridiculed Trump for being a birther. It's not about lying, it's about breaking the law and YOU agreeing she should be above it.
     
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    Yes, it's an ongoing investigation. An investigation existing does not prove guilt. If it did, there would be no reason to investigate at all.

    I'm not saying she should be above the law. If those in charge find cause for indicting her, then she should be indicted. If the legal system decides she's guilty of something, then by all means she should be appropriately punished.

    I am saying that those things haven't happened, and aren't likely to happen, despite years of lobbying for it from you and yours.

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  9. Denny Crane

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    It may well be that she is above the law. No way Obama administration indicts the Democratic Party nominee if there's some weak excuse that you'll buy.
     
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    It doesn't matter what I buy or don't buy. I have zero influence on the outcome, same as you.

    I notice you are now moving on to the conspiracy theory, as I predicted. Good for you.

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    No conspiracy, just cover up.

    It doesn't matter what you buy because you'll vote for the wicked witch of the west if she has a D next to her name.

    You do buy it and the try to sell it, like the cult it is.

    No sale.
     
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    Don't care if you buy or not.

    I'll wait to see what (if anything) actually happens.

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    Uh oh.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...nformation-to-court-under-penalty-of-perjury/

    In view of [20] the Government’s status report, the Court hereby directs the Government to request that Mrs. Hillary Clinton, Ms. Huma Abedin, and Ms. Cheryl Mills i) not delete any federal documents, electronic or otherwise, in their possession or control, and ii) provide appropriate assurances to the Government that the above-named individuals will not delete any such documents. The Government shall inform the Court of the status of its compliance with this Order no later than August 12, 2015, including a copy of any assurances provided by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills that they will not delete any federal documents in their possession or control. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on August 7, 2015.
     
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    Uh oh, uh oh.

    I, Hillary Rodham Clinton, declare under penalty of perjury that the following is true and correct:
    ...

    :lol:

    Perjury.
     
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    How do we know Denny's hacker didn't delete the emails?
     
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    "Our analysis of Guccifer’s behavior in the interview left little doubt in our minds that—unfortunately—it was.

    Let us be clear that in this case, the behavior available for analysis is quite minimal. Having said that, based on the lack of deceptive indicators exhibited by Guccifer in response to McFadden’s questions, we have concluded with a high degree of confidence that Guccifer was very likely successful in penetrating Clinton’s email server, as he claimed. "

    Ha ha. This guy's 'analysis' is even weaker than yours, Denny.

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    Expert witness. High degree of confidence.

    Phil Houston is CEO of QVerity, a training and consulting company specializing in detecting deception by employing a model he developed while at the Central Intelligence Agency. He has conducted thousands of interviews and interrogations for the CIA and other federal agencies. His colleague Don Tennant contributed to this report.
     
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    A lot of materials ordered by the court from the government were delivered two months late because the government sent the request for information to a coupleof old email accounts.

    Slick!
     

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