Politics Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Seriously. No trust issues with Bernie or Obama or Ted Kennedy or ...

    There's a there there.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So, is your argument here that public perception = reality?

    If the public thinks Libertarians are lunatics, that means they are lunatics?

    Interesting theory.

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    My argument is the facts known to the public yield this result.

    As long as you're going to attack the "bias" of RT, how about the bias of the source of the "no scant evidence" source?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...c19242-097c-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_story.html

    Is it any wonder that if you’re a conservative looking for unbiased news — and they do; they don’t want only Sean Hannity’s interpretation of the news — that you might feel unwelcome, or dissed or slighted, by the printed Post or the online version? And might you distrust the news when it’s wrapped in so much liberal commentary?

    (Patrick B. Pexton is the ombudsman of the WaPost).
     
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    I like to check in on the scoop by Rachel Maddow now and then. If she even covers the issue, you know you will get the polar opposite view of the truth.

    China New is good check.
     
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    I'm just responding to your ravings - I don't think I ever claimed that that article, or the Washington Post in particular, was unbiased.

    However, now that you bring it up, I do think there is a fundamental difference between the Washington Post and the propaganda arm of a foreign government. Maybe you don't?

    Sorry, can't read it without paying them 99 cents, which I simply can't afford. Maybe after Trump cuts my taxes (or raises them, depending on which day of the week it is).

    I'll take your word for it that conservatives look for unbiased news. They certainly appear to have very little ability to recognize it once they find it, so maybe that's the real problem.

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    I fucking can't stand Clinton. I'm not voting for her in the primary or the General if she wins. But Denny you know goddamn well that's not what she said. You're a quality poster whether we disagree or not, but you really need to not post bullshit drivel like this. It's unbecoming of you as an honest broker.
     
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    I hope Trump gets elected and they spend the next 4 years uncovering all the lies that the Obama clan have covered up the last 8 years. His transparent presidency is a joke. Worst pres since Carter and maybe all time.
    Only my opinion of course!
     
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    She absolutely said "what difference does it make."

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/

    "Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night and decided they’d go kill some Americans," Clinton said. "What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"




    She lied about it being a protest. Her emails actually show she knew it was a terrorist attack.
     
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    You brought up bias as if it makes a whole lot of difference if the emails are what they printed.
     
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    No, I brought up the fact that you mischaracterized the source. It wasn't RT I was accusing of bias. I was accusing you of bias. Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

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  13. Denny Crane

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    I showed no bias. Just pointed out what the source is.

    If you can show the emails they included in the article are not legit, I'm waiting. Somehow, I doubt you can.
     
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    Show me an email that says she knew it was a terrorist attack BEFORE thinking it was a spontaneous protest. Hindsight is 20/20. It's really easy to say she lied without proving it. It could have happened JUST like they said. It was a protest and hidden inside the protesters were armed terrorists who attacked us.

    So....

    We're supposed to believe that we shouldn't allow Syrian refugees into the country because terrorists might be hidden amongst them....

    While simultaneously believing there's no possible way that terrorists could have been hidden amongst the Bengazi protesters?
     
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    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/30/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi-emails/

    In the exchange from the night of the attack, Clinton told her daughter Chelsea -- who was using the pseudonym "Diane Reynolds" -- that the attack was launched by "an Al Queda-like group."

    ...

    On the same night Clinton wrote the email to her daughter, she also released a public statement condemning the attack, which noted, "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet."

    In the days and weeks that followed, the administration struggled to explain the attacks, and came under a firestorm of criticism for drawing a connection between the attack and an anti-Islam video released in the United States.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/benghazi-hearing-whats-new/

    The first was an email sent Sept. 12, 2012, by State Department Public Affairs Officer Lawrence Randolph that summarized a call between Clinton and then-Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Qandil a day after the attacks in Benghazi. That email quotes Clinton as saying, “We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack — not a protest.”
     
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    Waiting for barfo to deflect with some attack on CNN or the author.

    In 3....2.....1
     
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    She absolutely did it. I vividly remember her doing so. I could not believe the woman could be so callous as to say it.
    It even seems worse now that she is trying to make everyone believe she never blamed a video for the attack.
    What difference does it make seems to be the dumbest thing possible to say after telling the relatives of the people killed, it was the video.
    Geez! The woman has insufferable insolence.
     
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    Did anyone here ever go watch the video that Hillary blamed for the attack? I looked it up the day Susan Rice told everyone it was the Video.
    Watched it for several minuted then I said to myself, no frigging way did this poor quality dumb amateurish video inspire anyone to do anything.
    Let alone cause a mob, to go find a mortar, and attack a US embassy. Then I thought; How the hell do they (our government) come up with such bazaar bullshit? And Why? Still have no answer, and the woman that knows says, "What difference does it make?". Jail is where she belongs not the White house.
     
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    Sure, an 'official russian news site'. And the KKK is an 'activist group' and Hitler was an 'inspirational leader'.

    I can't. Nor can you show they are legit. So I guess it's a draw, except that I won't be trafficking in conspiracy theories if it doesn't end up the way I expect.

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  20. Denny Crane

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    I guess you lose.

    The emails had Hiliar's email address as well as blumenthal's. WaPost reports the emails were published by RT.com. Not sure I should believe you or the newspapers. Ok, I am sure not to believe you.

    As reported by WaPost and NYTimes.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...in-registered-the-day-of-her-senate-hearings/

    Hacked e-mails indicate that Hillary Clinton used a domain registered the day of her Senate hearings


    By Philip Bump March 2, 2015
    • Why Clinton’s private e-mail address is bad news

    Hillary Clinton's private e-mail address that she used while secretary of state reinforces everything people don't like about her, argues The Post's Chris Cillizza, and is very dangerous to her presidential ambitions. (The Washington Post)

    The New York Times reported Monday night that, during her tenure at the State Department, Hillary Clinton never used her official e-mail account to conduct communications, relying instead on a private e-mail account. As the Times notes, only official accounts are automatically retained under the Federal Records Act, meaning that none of Clinton's e-mail communication was preserved.

    In March 2013, an adviser to Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal, had his e-mail hacked by "Guccifer" -- the Romanian hacker perhaps best known for revealing George W. Bush's paintings to the world. At the time, Gawker reported that Blumenthal was communicating with an account that appeared to belong to Clinton at the "clintonemail.com" domain. The content of some of those e-mails was published by RT.com.
     

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