Enough with the small ball basketball

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I want to see a lot more of this:



    All of those assists were during Nurk Fever (his first 20 games as a Blazer in Feb/Mar 2017). Just look at how many of them were passes from the high post to cutters diving to the rim. And of those, look how many of them were to Moe. If Collins can consistently knock down the open corner 3, with Nurk in the high post, it will spread the floor for Moe and the guards to cut to the basket. More player movement, more ball movement, more assists and more easy baskets. It's exactly what this team needs.

    That was so effective, I have no idea why it wasn't part of the game plan in 2017-18. It was like with a full offseason to think about it, Terry decided to park Nurk down on the low block and force feed him early to get him "involved" and "focused". All that seemed to do was cause Nurk to resort to wild, low percentage flip shots, and unforced TOVs against other starting centers. Fuck that. Save the low post beast Nurk for when the other team goes small and he can simply overpower his smaller defender. Early in the game, or when the other team goes big, get Nurk in the high post, spread the floor with your shooters and run backdoor cuts for Moe.

    Again just go back and watch that video. That is some beautiful shit, right there.

    BNM
     
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    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    Whenever this guy posts all I can think of is.
    Thomas Robinson allstar potential & Greg Oden must be resigned.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    You forgot to finish your post with "Discuss"
     
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    Blazer4ever Finding a Way BANNED

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    Not enough in my book. The last time we made it to the conference finals we had Sheed and Brian Grant.
    I would even settle for having Meyers and Caleb playing real minutes but that didn't happen
     
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    Let me offer this scenario, getting rid of one of Harkless or Aminu, lets say Aminu, then the depth chart:

    Dame. Napier
    CJ, Counaghton
    Turner, Harkless, Leyman
    Ed Davis, Caleb, Harkless (small ball)
    Nurkic, Meyers, Collins

    That's better structure and a stronger team, we can still use small ball at the right timing but wouldn't be what our gameplan is based on. Meyers and Caleb both have 3 point range so we'd still have shooting in the front court but also size and strength
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Ummmmmmmmm, I, uhhhh, really? That rotation is your solution?

    Either I'm not aware yet of your trolling style or your post shows a complete lack of understanding of the game of basketball. Discuss.
     
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    It's my solution? it would be a better rotation than we played this year.
    My solution, honestly, is to fire the coach
     
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    My thnking is we don't need much. We have two of the best backcourt players in the league and a variety of big men. We don't have less fire-power than the Celts do, we just have an inferior coach, and we're playing too shabby, too small, the kind of basketball that doesn't work in the offseason. A few weeks before post season we were rolling, Dame and CJ co-existed beautifully and we won every game, I wouldn't change much but I hope they replace the coach
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    So, winning the summer league championship is that important to you? Sorry, but you're way off base here. Going big doesn't work in the rat ball, guard dominated summer league. If we really want to win the summer league championship, we should be scouring the G league for undersized ball hogs that thrive in an unstructured, undisciplined environment.

    BNM
     
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    You forgot the green font!
     
  11. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Hey, he was the one that's unhappy our style of play isn't conducive to offseason success.

    Seems like it is to me. Of all the teams that made the playoffs, we made it to the offseson the fastest.

    BNM
     
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    So let me get this straight. You want our lineup to be bigger and your solution to that is to move Collins from backup PF to 3rd string Center? Please explain the logic there.
     
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    Yeah, this is like Exhibit Z on why Terry should have been fired by now. It's unfathomable that we saw such amazing play between Nurk/Moe, and then the moment Terry actually has the ability to codify it as part of our game plan he instead decides to throw it ENTIRELY out of the window. Fucking idiot.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Sorry Bro. I'm going to have to exercise my veto authority on that one.
     
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    Small ball is here to stay. The Warriors and Rockets play small ball. The Blazers , with Nurk in the post, actually play more of a conventional style, and as Jusaf gets better at finishing, I believe it will pay big dividends. But teams will continue jacking from long distance for the foreseeable future. The better Nurk, and Zach become at finishing in the post, the more big ball you will see.
     
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    I don't understand why we don't do that either.

    I'm not completely sold on Collins, but against certain lineups, they could do some damage
     
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    Please elaborate on how losing our 2 best on the ball defenders makes us better. Discuss.
     
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    If this is the roster, your line-up is screwed. Turner/Ed/Nurk would be suicide on offense. Assuming this is your roster, the line-up should look more like:

    Dame / Bazz
    CJ / Pat
    Harkless / Turner / Jake
    Collins / Biggie
    Nurk / Ed / Meyers

    I still don't quite understand why we don't have at least one new player on the roster (I'm with you on getting rid of Aminu, but we should get something in return). I also don't understand why Bazz and Jake are still on the roster.
     
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    I think playing bigger, even with Turner, Ed and Nurk together (and with Dame and CJ don't forget) would give us more fire power on offense also, more guys setting strong screens, more people to throw the ball inside to. I'm not on the Collins bandwagon, I think if Caleb got the same chance he would be more impressive than what Collins showed us
     
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    I think ultimately the direction that teams will take will be two smaller guards, two forwards who will play in a very similar manner without clear distinction between 3 and 4 positions (see Tobias Harris, Otto Porter) and a rim protector with great shot blocking and rebounding skills (Gobert, Capela etc.). I think teams will aim to have at least one tall, defensively solid player but the positions behind them will largely consist of versatile players who can shoot.
     

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