Politics Ever since Trump became president...

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  1. Minstrel

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    Exactly. Politically, he didn't like the law, but he had to rule in favor of upholding the ACA because he had to stick to the Constitution. Glad we agree.

    Elections have consequences, courts can't invalidate constitutional laws.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    LOL

    You're just wrong. We can agree to agree on that.
     
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    Coming from a guy who thinks the Supreme Court doesn't rule on the constitutionality of cases, it's a positive endorsement for me that you think I'm wrong. :)
     
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    As a former Scout and Scoutmaster, I'm a little torn on his Jamboree speech.

    On one hand, yes, he should have just stuck with talking about the Boy Scout Motto and By-Laws, and how they have evolved over the years, and how boys can use those ideals and merits as guides to becoming a responsible adult.

    On the other hand, it's like some people have said: exposing boys to the realities of politics is a part of life, and a part of growing up. This isn't 1910 anymore. And if you think Trump's speech was bad, how do you think it was during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam? (Or any other controversial time in the past 107 years). You wanna tell me there wasn't some speech using propaganda, politics, and hyper-patriotism during war-time at Jamborees past? I find that very hard to believe.
     
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    He hijacked it. Said he wasn't goung to speak about politics. Those were boys, not voters. How low can you go.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Come on. Let's not pretend like Hillary wouldn't have had her own agenda if she was up there as President. Do you honestly expect me to believe that she wouldn't have brought up feminism and gay rights?

    Again, I stick by what I said in the first part of my last post: he should have stuck with just talking about the Scout Way and how it pertains to becoming an adult. But let's not fool ourselves into believing that the other candidate, who ran her campaign on feminism, gun control, and ultra-liberal views, wouldn't have had her own way of saying things if she were up there.

    I'm not trying to deflect. I'm simply encouraging folks here to keep things in perspective, that's all.
     
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    If Clinton had won and had done that I would have been equally appalled. But, she didn't win and we aren't talking about her. We are talking about Trump and his actions. I don't care for the "its ok because the other party would have done it excuse". Its wrong regardless.
     
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    Let's agree that you might have learned something about how the Court actually works. These days, anyhow.
     
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    And they stood and cheered for him and what he said, the whole time.

    What a sick bastard! He told the kids to find something they love and make money at it, or else work really becomes work.

    CNN showed almost the whole thing.
     
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    Oh, certainly, I learned a lot about how the Court actually works--in class and from seeing the SCOTUS operate for many years. You might try both school and paying attention, then you might also learn this stuff, rather than rely on me. :)
     
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    It wasn't you that remembered how Roberts changed his mind near the end. You missed that in school.

    SCOTUS is an appeals court, not a legislative body.

    One of us knows what that means. It's not you ;)
     
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    Read the backlash from the Boy Scouts and the parents and Scout Masters after the speech and get back to me....this was like most things...a speech about him and how unfairly America is to him...then go make money kids.....be like me...sure
     
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    One of you has mad cow..it's not him!
     
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    You mean there are sore losers who have kids who are boy scouts?

    The video does not lie.
     
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    Just think how much more clear the court will be, with one more appointment.
    :tongue:
     
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    Scalia was on the court when they judged Obamacare to be constitutional. Sorry, man, that's not the crushing blow you seem to think it is.
     
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    Neither of us remembered or forgot it. You chose to post a news article about that to prove that Roberts doesn't consider the Court's role to judge constitutionality.

    But what I like about you is that you're proud of how you humiliated yourself!
     
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    Yes he was. But not together with Gorsuch to help Roberts with backbone. One more and we have Clarity & Courage.
     
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    ....you do know Scalia died, right? You still don't have him together with Gorsuch. The Court today is basically identical to the Court that judged the ACA to be constitutional.
     

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