"Every child deserves a married mom and dad"

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  1. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I have two nieces who have two moms. They are doing quite well I'd say, yet the oldest one wants a father so bad it is sad as hell. She wanted me to be her dad when she was smaller. I told her I grew up without a dad and it isn't the end of the world and she's seemed better about it the last few years.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    No, I can't stand the rain. She lives in Washington. Besides, in small doses I'm a good influence. Large doses and she'd be on the FBI most wanted list in a few years. I'm only about half joking about that.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Uh, no dude.

    I'm sure Priebus said lots of things. They chose to "fact check" this because it got the reaction from you that it did.

    And the "fact" check is just wrong.
     
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  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    I think having a mother and father figure in a kids life is super important. I prefer that scenario over anything else. It's a good balance for a developing child. I can see how it would be super confusing for a child at first to understand the dynamic, and having to deal with that at school daily if you had same sex parents. /shrug just my opinion.
     
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    I don't think it matters much. Some fathers are terrible male role models. Some mothers are terrible female role models. There are other places to find gendered role models (if, indeed, role models for "how to be a man" or "how to be a woman" are even necessary/important, which I'm not convinced of).

    What really matters, whatever parents you have (or parent, as the case may be), is that your guardian(s) be loving and engaged. I'd probably agree that two caring parents are better than one, but I think it's just as true that three caring parents/guardians would be better than two, and on up, as in the case of large extended families that live together. So, I think that complaining about single parents is as valid as complaining about the supposed WASP ideal of a two-parent home over the extended-family-under-one-roof family set-ups that many cultures have.

    In the end, those things (maybe) only matter at the margins. What makes the real difference is that what parents/guardians you do have are, as I said, loving and engaged.
     
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    One would think that if father figures added so much, the United States could be leading the world in everything if we allowed men to marry each other. If one father figure is good, imagine two?

    On a serious note, I firmly believe that having both a positive father figure and a positive mother figure are vital to a child's success. That doesn't mean same sex couple can't raise wonderful children though. However if two women are raising a child, I think it's important that there is a positive male role model very active in that child's life, and vise versa.

    However, Both my wife and I are pretty active positive influences on our kids, and my youngest, with some anger/ADHD issues is really tough, and will more than likely not turn in to a great adult. Not our fault, not his fault, just what it is
     
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    I have a friend who had parents who divorced, and the relationship (or lack there of) between her and her father (and her mother and father) has surely played a role in how many times she's been married and her choice of men. She's headed into her 3rd marriage before she's 35, and there's already issues with the relationship she has with her fiance.

    Conversely, her sister, raised in the same house (they are actually twins) has a stable marriage.

    Stable parents are key.
     
  12. MarAzul

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    I take it you disagree. How can that be?
     
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    No, he said, "The best scenario for kids is a loving mom and dad"

    I am sure not going to disagree with this. If you do, what the heck happened?
    I had a mom and dad until I was about eight, then the shit began. I rather prefer the first part.
     
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    Does that mean you know something like no other?
     
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    I think Sly is leading the pack in getting it right! The right way to think. The right thing to say. However, it isn't right, it's left.
     
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    Newsflash: we do allow men to marry each other. Welcome to 2016!

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    I meant to say had, not if.
     
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    I think it's fair to say any good pair of parents is better than a single parent or a bad single parent or bad couple of parents.

    But when there's a study that says kids without a father figure end up in trouble with the law more than those who do, the fact check isn't telling the truth about finding no studies that support what Priebus said. And he didn't say what the science denier SlyPokerDog claims he said.
     
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    Question. For years now, most states have not permitted siblings and close relatives to marry, that is get a marriage license.
    But is that all history now? Can two Lesbian sisters now get a marriage license? Those laws are still on the books, aren't they?
    Does this make any sense? Why does the law care if two Lesbian or Gay men are siblings?

    Shouldn't this discrimination be shot down under the same equal protection clause? Then when...
     
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    The overwhelming majority of violent criminals in America had no father (or positive male role model) taking an active part in their lives.
     
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