Evidence that "Atheism" is not a sound belief

Yeah probably not a good idea in here and I do agree with interest vs. practicing good science. That's why I also agree that it's good that there are creationist in science as well.

 

i was pointing out that you were about to contort my prior comments about scientists and the age of the earth into another "atheists claim no scientists believe in creation" straw man. just saving you the effort.

 

correct

 

If a deity created everything, who/what created the deity? Did the deity have no mass or energy? If the answer is yes, you've just contradicted yourself... If the answer is no, then you're saying there was always mass/energy and thus contradicting yourself.

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I'll make it easy for you... You're contradicting yourself. Maybe just admit you don't have a fucking clue?

 

You’re saying that it’s possible for an other-dimensional omnipotent deity to create ‘something’ in this dimension out of ‘nothing’ in this dimension, and you don’t think that contradicts saying, “You can’t make matter/energy disappear from existence, nor can you make matter/energy from nothing”?

If you fundamentally believe the above is possible, then I’d think you’d be open to the idea that it could have occurred without a deity. How can you with a straight face claim one scenario is possible, and the other isn’t?

 

LOL! You do realize that someone that believes in a deity believes that anything is possible right? You are the one that believes there is none; therefor you are bound by the laws of science. Because you do not believe in the supernatural.

That was too easy. NEXT...

 

Guess he missed the memo that theists actually believe in the supernatural.

 

For starters I'm not an aetheist, I'm agnostic. I definitely believe anything is possible.

Second, you're statement in bold is not true. A large percentage of those who are religious do not have open minds about this (go take a poll in the middle east). That is a fact, and to say otherwise just undelines you're stupidity.

Third, you said:

That doesn't sound like one who believes anything is possible.. You clearly didn't comprehend my previous posts. I unfortunately can't make you smarter, I can only show everyone else how flawed your argument is.

Wow, I just read on a bit more in this thread and the 'Evidence that God exists' thread and realized just how dumb and dense magnifier is. I might as well argue with my testicles.

 

Actually not true, but if you say so.

Only person here that looks stupid is you. Anything is possible? Um even ask the muslims that they know with the power of God, they can overcome even the strongest countries. Hilarious that you are arguing this.

You clearly didn't comprehend my OT. And you clearly don't know how to debate. When I make "QUESTIONS" they are talking like someone that is unbiased to the subject.

It's pretty obvious that the only person that sounds dumb is the one that said I created a thread "Evidence that God exists"; when it's titled "Evidence that "Atheism" is not a sound belief." OMG!!! :MARIS61: Back to the drawing board you go.

 

haha... You're actually going to tell me what I believe now?

You've gotta just be messing around, you can't possibly write the posts you have and think you're winning.

Please PM me and let me know if this is all an act. I won't tell.

 

Why not, you are telling me what I believe. If you think an agnostic believes in the supernatural; then you may want to look up what a "true agnostic" believes in.

Winning? Who said I want to win? I'm making a statement and opinion; then the readers of the thread can make their own opinion. Do you think you are winning? Is this what it's all about?

 

... I did?

A) I thought we were talking about me, not all "true agnostic"s, whatever that means.

B) Defintion from wiki - Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable

I freely admit I don't know shit. That's why I'm open to the possibility of supernatural.

 

The more I read and study up on this, the more I LOL at the religion of atheism. Within 50 years, atheism is going to be dead with the direction science is headed in. Believe it or not it was much easier to be an atheist 50 years ago based on what we knew then compared to what we know now, so another 50 years should be about all it takes before all the rest start catching on.

 

you're like a caricature of a creationist, spouting nonstop talking points and phrases like you're incapable of thinking for yourself.

 

Yes you did....

Cool so you agree that there can be a deity? Now we are on to something.

 

I don't know what you're even talking about. And yeah I can think for myself, thank God. It has driven me to look for the facts that have solidified my already skeptical views of naturalistic claims, and how they lead to dead ends in so many different areas. I think if anyone here can't think for themselves it's you.