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  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Don’t think anything without Shaedon or Scoot was going to get us anything more than a RoCo/Nance level non difference maker, but we can disagree on that.
     
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    Makes me wonder one other thing:

    If Dame was questioning the Blazers commitment to winning since 2021, why didn't he have a trade clause put into his contract extension like Beal did? Surely the Blazers would have complied -- they bent over backwards for him in every other way. He would have had all the leverage. It's almost standard these days. Just bizarre there wasn't a clause in there. It makes you think Dame really wasn't thinking trade at all at the time he signed the new deal, and then it makes you wonder what made him do such a 180 between the signing and yesterday, because, as far as I can tell, nothing else changed.
     
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    If I was Miami I would say the same thing in order to build up their value. But since they do not have anything else to offer, I am pretty sure that they both would be included.

    My question and I don't know the answer is how much better for the Blazers are Claxton/ Clowney vs Jovic/Jaquez. We know the Nets also have more picks to offer, but for now, let's just debate these 4 players.

    Offensively I would give the edge to Miami's young players, but defensively the two Nets players are much better. I would like to hear from those who have been touting Jovic for a while.
     
  4. Everything Beagle

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    They drafted his replacement last week.
     
  5. KeepOnRollin

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    It is not almost standard. I believe Beal is the only one with a no trade clause in the NBA currently. Some have trade kickers but that only means team sending player out pays them a bonus.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    Wow. I didn't know that (obviously). Thanks for the information and correcting that.
     
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    Ya I was surprised by it myself. If anybody finds differently though, please let us know.
     
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    Here'a pretty cool article about it. Basically, there are three different kinds of no-trade clauses in the NBA. Beal is the one we'd think of when we think of a no-trade clause, but there are variations, and, ironically, Drew Eubanks was a player that had one of the other two types.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markde...rade-clause-in-the-nba-works/?sh=7c8cbc17771b
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Claxton allows you to move off Nurk.
     
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    pretty sure that wouldn't be legal. It was an extension of the existing contract, not a completely new contract
     
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    Agree. No doubt the Nets are the better option for that reason. But Jovic just turned 20 and I wonder how good he will be in another 2 years when he adds some weight. He looks to have great instincts. Could he be a future star in a position of need? Having said that I think Clowney has a lot of potential as well. I really want Claxton and Clowney.
     
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    Out of all the young guys being offered Sochan is my favorite, followed by Claxton.
     
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    Yeah I like him as well but I am having a hard time believing SA is a serious trade partner for Dame.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Not even close IMO.
    Claxton >> Jovic
    Clowney >> Jaquez
     
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    Pretty cocky, huh
     
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    That's nice for him. No need for the Blazers even to get involved, I guess.
     
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    Bruh. What?
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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