Politics FAKE NEWS STILL GOING STRONG

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  1. Lanny

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    "Fake News Still Going Strong" and you quote Fox News. How apropos.
     
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    Nunes files $150M lawsuit against McClatchy, alleging conspiracy to derail Clinton, Russia probes

    By Gregg Re | Fox News

    House Intelligence Committee member Rep. Devin Nunes on filing $150 million lawsuit against McClatchy alleging conspiracy to derail Clinton and Russia probes.

    House Intelligence Committee ranking member Devin Nunes filed a $150 million lawsuit in Virginia state court against The McClatchy Company and others on Monday, alleging that one of the news agency's reporters conspired with a political operative to derail Nunes' oversight work into the Hillary Clinton campaign and Russian election interference.

    The filing, obtained by Fox News, came a day after Nunes, R-Calif., revealed he would send eight criminal referrals to the Justice Department this week concerning purported surveillance abuses by federal authorities during the Russia probe, false statements to Congress and other matters.

    In March, Nunes filed a similar $250 million lawsuit alleging defamation against Twitter and one of its users, Republican consultant Liz Mair. In Monday's complaint, Nunes again named Mair as a co-defendant, charging this time that she conspired with McClatchy reporter MacKenzie Mays to spread a variety of untruthful and misleading smears -- including that Nunes "was involved with cocaine and underage prostitutes" -- online and in print.

    Reached for comment late Monday, Mair directed Fox News to a USA Today op-ed she penned earlier this week concerning Nunes' previous lawsuit entitled, "Free speech means I don't have to be nice to Devin Nunes on Twitter. So why's he suing me?"

    A spokesperson for McClatchy told Fox News late Monday: "We have no comment and stand behind the strong reporting of The Fresno Bee," the McClatchy-owned publication cited throughout Nunes' lawsuit.

    In a March story, the McClatchy DC Bureau reported that Nunes' previous lawsuit against Twitter and some of its users had only "amplified" the visibility of his critics and the Internet trolls -- including one named "Devin Nunes' Cow."

    Fox News is told Mair has not yet received service of process -- including an official copy of Nunes' complaint -- in either litigation.

    Nunes' new complaint acknowledged the sensitivity of filing a defamation and conspiracy lawsuit against journalists but went on to allege that the defendants had "abandoned the role of journalist, and chose to leverage their considerable power to spread falsehoods and to defame" Nunes for "political and financial gain."

    "I'm coming to clean up the mess."

    — California GOP Rep. Devin Nunes
    "They need to retract everything they did against me, but they also need to come clean with the American people," Nunes told Fox News' "Hannity" Monday night. "Retract all of their fake news stories. This is part of the broader clean-up. Remember, a few weeks ago, I filed against Twitter -- they're censoring conservatives. McClatchy is one of the worst offenders of this. But we're coming after the rest of them. I think people are beginning to wake up now, I'm serious -- I'm coming to clean up the mess."

    The complaint filed on Monday specifically cited a May 23, 2018 article published by the Fresno Bee and written by Mays, entitled, "A yacht, cocaine, prostitutes: Winery partly owned by Nunes sued after fundraiser event."

    The article described a lawsuit's allegations of a 2015 party aboard the yacht involving "25 of the Napa Valley-based [Alpha Omega Winery]'s top investors, all men — [who] were openly using what appeared to be cocaine and 'drawing straws' for which sex worker to hire."

    That same day, Mays tweeted the article, mentioning Nunes in the same sentence as "cocaine and underage sex workers."

    Nunes' complaint accused Mays of "chos[ing] to emphasize the words 'woman,' 'Devin' and 'cocaine'" in her tweet. But, as Los Angeles Times National correspondent Matt Pearce noted on Twitter shortly after this article was published, those three words appear bolded only in the embedded tweet included in Nunes' complaint -- as they would if a keyword search were performed on Twitter for the words "woman," "Devin," and "cocaine."

    In Mays' original tweet, however, the words are not bolded or emphasized.

    Nunes asserted in the complaint that the event on the yacht was not a "fundraiser" at all, but rather a cruise resulting from a charitable donation -- and one that McClatchy knew Nunes had nothing to do with.

    "The McClatchy headline intentionally omitted the word 'charity' and labeled the event a 'fundraiser' in a clear effort to imply it was a political fundraising event that a politician like Congressman Nunes would naturally attend," the complaint stated.

    Nunes said another line in the story was false: "t's unclear … if he [Nunes] was … affiliated with the fundraiser." The congressman said the winery had told McClatchy explicitly that Nunes was not affiliated with the event. Nunes also countered that those aboard the yacht had no connection to the winery and were not investors.

    Additionally, "online versions of the story are punctuated by a prominent picture of Nunes and multiple film clips of him," creating a strong and misleading implication, repeated by Twitter users and other journalists, that Nunes was directly involved in the event on the yacht, the complaint continued.

    Defamation law prohibits not only provably false statements but also heavy implications of falsities that harm defendants' reputations. However, public figures like Nunes must meet a high bar to prove defamation and must demonstrate that the defendants recklessly or intentionally spread falsehoods, rather than merely negligently.

    Additionally, Virginia, like many other states, includes robust protections for journalists and other actors accused of defamation in what is called an "anti-SLAPP statute." SLAPP stands for "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation."

    In his complaint, Nunes alleged that regardless, defamation law should not shield what he called a knowing and deliberate effort to "destroy" his reputation. "Indeed, the entire purpose of every element of the Yacht/Cocaine/Prostitutes article – the headline, the photo, the film clips, and the text itself – is to link Nunes to an event that McClatchy actually knew before publication he had no involvement with," the complaint stated.

    A series of unmentioned "stealth edits" were made to the article post-publication. The original article stated that the winery serviced "Russian clients while the congressman was at the helm of a federal investigation of Russian meddling into the presidential election."

    Rep. Devin Nunes takes Twitter to court, sues tech giant for $250 million

    California Congressman Devin Nunes says the social media giant is trying to keep Republican viewpoints behind a digital veil; Jonathan Hunt reports from Los Angeles.

    Eventually the sentence was changed to make it clear that the wine sales to Russians came years before the Russia probe began: "Nunes' ties to [the winery] made national headlines last year because it was discovered the winery sold wine to Russian clients in 2013. The discovery came amid Nunes' ongoing involvement in a federal investigation of Russian meddling into the presidential election."

    In other articles, McClatchy also referenced Mair, the political operative whose LinkedIn profile included the boast that she "anonymously smears" targets on the Internet. Mair also has said Nunes had "issues" and she was "going after him."

    "The fact is, the [Federal Election Commission] is not going to look favorably on a dude who uses his tax-exempt political entity like a personal slush fund, flying himself to Boston to watch them while apparently engaging in no activity relevant to the purpose of the political organization,’ said Liz Mair," read one article published by McClatchy DC Bureau on July 19, 2018. "McClatchy failed to inform readers of Mair’s employment with Mair Strategies, an opposition research company that, in Mair’s own words, 'smears' targets for paying clients," the complaint stated.

    On July 11, 2018, Mays authored an article that referred to an "ethics complaint" filed against Nunes by the Swamp Accountability Project. That group is run by Mair, whom the article identified only as "a political commentator who formerly worked for the Republican National Committee."

    "Mays concealed the fact that Mair is an opposition research operative who admittedly smears targets, such as Nunes, for pay from as-yet anonymous clients," the complaint said. "This was a crucial omission, since it would have revealed Mair’s motives and cast grave doubt on her credibility and veracity and on the credibility and veracity of her handlers."

    Even as the editorial board of the Fresno Bee doubled down on the reporting, Nunes said, other outlets refused to publish similar stories -- in contrast to McClatchy's willful abandonment of journalistic standards, the complaint alleged.

    One newspaper, the Visalia Times-Delta, wrote that it "did not pursue the story because editors decided the lawsuit’s ties to Nunes were tenuous. There were no allegations that Nunes was involved in any way with the charity event, aside from being an investor in the winery."

    The complaint also read: "The purpose of the concerted defamation campaign was to cause immense pain, intimidate, interfere with and divert Nunes’ attention from his investigation of corruption and alleged Russian involvement in the 2016 Presidential Election. The substance and timing of the publication of McClatchy’s online articles and the tweets, retweets, replies and likes by Mair and McClatchy reporters demonstrates that McClatchy and Mair were engaged in a joint effort, together and with others, to defame Nunes and interfere with his duties, employment and investigations of corruption as a United States Congressman."

    It continued: "The attacks on Nunes were pre-planned, calculated, orchestrated and undertaken by multiple individuals acting in concert, over a continuous period of time throughout 2018. The full scope of the conspiracy, including the names of all participants and the level of involvement of any agents or instrumentalities of foreign governments, is unknown at this time and will be the subject of discovery in this action."

    Fox News' Catherine Herridge contributed to this report.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nu...ng-conspiracy-to-derail-clinton-russia-probes
     
  3. Lanny

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    A, And to what do you think she's referring? She claims to be referring to the reason being that the country is hungry for change. For change from what? For change from the damage done by Bush.
    B. She's saying that she prefers Obama's ideas over the ideas of Bush.
    C. And you didn't notice Nazis supporting Trump carrying torches chanting how Jews will not replace them? And if you see Leftists spewing anti Semitic stuff then you should have had no problem linking it.
    D. If you don't see Trump zeroing in on minorities then I don't know what to say.
    How come you can't see this obvious stuff? The reason for a lot of far Righties is that they wear blinders.
     
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    Nunes, that's gonna go far.
     
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    I'm embarassed that you swallow corporate propoga...err, media about any and every bad thing they feed you. The Fox News Lol is tiresome at best. Of course, you just did respond to a very important point made by Ted Koppel with this....

    Which causes you to lose any credibility you had in a discussion about our media.
     
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    By the way, Fox News is also corporate media....don't think I'm defending them when I say they aren't as bad as CNN. That's like saying rape isn't as bad as murder.
     
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    A Tip of The Cap to The Incredibly Real American Teenager, Nick Sandmann. :cheers:

    Give 'em hell, Nick. I fully expect you will be POTUS of this great country someday.

    Covington Catholic High student Nick Sandmann sues NBC for $275M
    By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News

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    More lawsuits may be ahead from Covington student Nick Sandmann
    Co-counsel Todd McMurtry tells 'Fox & Friends' to expect 12 to 14 more lawsuits.

    Covington Catholic High School student Nicholas Sandmann is suing NBCUniversal for a whopping $275 million over the media coverage he received earlier this year, his lawyer said Wednesday.

    Sandmann was at the center of a viral controversy back in January, alongside reports suggesting that he and his classmates had initiated a confrontation with Native American elder Nathan Phillips outside the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. Subsequent reporting and video evidence contradicted that version of events.

    Sandmann's attorney, Todd V. McMurty, announced the defamation suit against NBCUniversal.

    “NBCUniversal created a false narrative by portraying the ‘confrontation’ as a ‘hate crime’ committed by Nicholas,” the lawsuit read, saying Sandmann was "an easy target for NBCUniversal to advance its anti-Trump agenda because he was a 16-year-old white, Catholic student who had attended the Right to Life March that day and was wearing a MAGA cap at the time of the incident which he had purchased earlier in the day as a souvenir.”

    This marks the third major lawusit Sandmann's legal team has launched. The team is also suing The Washington Post for $250 million as well as CNN for $275 million. McMurty previously suggested that The Associated Press and HBO could face simiilar lawsuits.

    NBCUniversal did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

    Joseph A. Wulfsohn is a media reporter for Fox News. Follow him on Twitter @JosephWulfsohn.
     
  8. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Are we back to this? Don't you think it's time to move on to something more productive?

    Edit:
    1. It's Fox News;
    2. You've gotta sit through half a minute of commercial crap;
    3. It tells you virtually nothing.
     
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    I think it is pretty interesting. Young Nick is going to get paid well for being focus of the shit shoveled out by NBC and CNN.
    Despicable display of the lack of journalism.

    Geez! Gone are the days I watched Crossfire on the once dependable news source.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Nick was just collateral damage.

    So what if they knew they were doing him unjustified harm? Anything to get Trump amirite?
     
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    Geez! I hate to agree, that was what it seems to be.
     
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    Maddow, Democrats Use Deceptively Edited Clip to Argue Barr Lied to Congress
    BY: Alex Griswold

    May 1, 2019 3:43 pm

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    Watching MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Show last night, you could be forgiven for believing that Attorney General William Barr was caught in obvious perjury. The New York Times and the Washington Post reported Tuesday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller sent a letter to Barr objecting to his four-page summary of the Mueller Report, saying it "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance" of his report.

    Wait a minute, said Maddow, when Barr testified before the Senate, "he was asked if Special Counsel Robert Mueller agreed with his conclusion summarizing the results of Robert Mueller's investigation." She then played a clip of the following exchange:

    BARR: It was the conclusion of a number of people, including me, and I obviously am the attorney general. It was also the conclusion of the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

    DEMOCRATIC MARYLAND SENATOR CHRIS VAN HOLLEN: I understand. I’ve read your letters.

    BARR: And I will discuss that decision after the report is…

    VAN HOLLEN: Did Bob Mueller support your conclusion?

    BARR: I don't know whether Bob Mueller supported my conclusion.

    Maddow here is following the lead of Democrats like Van Hollen and Congressman Jerry Nadler, who highlighted the same exchange and insisted it was about Barr's summary of the Mueller report.

    Vox likewise reports that Barr "told Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D., Md.) during a Senate hearing that he wasn’t sure about Mueller’s thoughts on his letter." CBS News wrote on the exchange that "Barr denied knowing where Mueller stood on his characterization of the investigation's findings." CNN's Chris Cillizza likewise characterized that exchange as being about the four-page summary.

    All are wrong. For full context, here are Van Hollen's questions before the clip in question. The last question is the one Maddow claims was actually about the four-page summary. [emphasis added]

    You put your view of the report out there on this issue of obstruction of justice, right? No one asked you to do that.

    You made a conclusion of the question of obstruction of justice that was not contained in the Mueller report. I'm simply asking you, when you looked at the evidence, did you agree with Mueller and his team that there were difficult issues of law and fact?

    Did your decision require you to look into the intent of the President of the United States, with respect to obstruction of justice?

    Mr. Attorney General, the thing is you put this out there. I mean, the president went out and tweeted the next day that he was exonerated. That wasn’t based on anything in the Mueller report with respect to obstruction of justice, that was based on your assessment. That was on March 24. And now you won’t elaborate at all as to how you reached that conclusion because I’m not asking you what’s in the Mueller report, I’m asking about your conclusion.

    I've omitted Barr's answers and Van Hollen's rather lengthy opener for space, but you can watch the full exchange here if you like. In context, it's obvious Barr wasn't being asked whether Mueller agreed with his "conclusion" meaning his four-page summary, his framing of his facts, etc., but about his ultimate conclusion on obstruction of justice.

    ABC News at the time framed the exchange as that Van Hollen asking "‘Did Bob Mueller support your conclusion' on obstruction of justice"? Tweets from reporters indicate that everyone understood that the question was about obstruction of justice. And by virtue of the fact that Mueller declined to issue a recommendation on obstruction, Barr's answer is necessarily true; he doesn't know if Mueller agrees with his conclusion.

    Van Hollen is lying. He was the one who spent several minutes questioning Barr on the question of obstruction of justice after all. It's possible everyone else is misinterpreting what he meant by "Did Bob Mueller support your conclusion?" but Van Hollen knows that he was talking specifically about obstruction, and then tweeted out a clip that purposely omitted that context. The rest either swallowed hook, line, and sinker an edited clip sent out by partisan actors without checking the original source (bad!) or are also being willfully deceitful (much worse!). I'll let my readers decide who falls into which category.

    In fairness, Bar gave testimony the following day that was definitely about the Mueller's reaction to the letter, and his answer was questionable to say the least. Here's how most Twitter liberals including MSNBC and Vox reporters framed the exchange:

    DEMOCRATIC FLORIDA REP. CHARLIE CRIST: Reports have emerged recently, general, that members of the special counsel’s team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your March 24th letter, that it does not adequately or accurately necessarily portray the report’s findings. Do you know what they’re referencing with that?

    BARR: No, I don’t.

    But once again, that's missing some important context. Here's Barr's full answer:

    BARR: No, I don’t. I think — I think — I suspect that they probably wanted more put out, but in my view, I was not interested in putting out summaries or trying to summarize, because I think any summary, regardless of who prepares it, not only runs the risk of, you know, being underinclusive or overinclusive, but also, you know, would trigger a lot of discussion and analysis that really should await everything coming out at once.

    As I read it, Crist's question "Do you know what they’re referencing" was intended to refer to the media reports, but Barr's full answer shows he thought "they" was the members of the special counsel. "No, I don't" is a damning answer if you assume they're on the page and that he's denying the content of the media reports, but I think his full answer suggests he was taking it for granted those reports were accurate.

    My Never-Trump-RINO-squish-cuck-secret-lib take is that Barr's answer was technically accurate, but still pretty deceptive. He doesn't "suspect" that they wanted more put out, he knows they do. Barr's lawyerly response in Wednesday's hearing was that "I talked directly to Bob Mueller, not members of his team." That's pretty lame; most people would take "the special counsel's team" to include the special counsel.

    But if indeed that exchange is so damning on the merits, why would Vox and MSNBC reporters feel the need to edit out the full answer, and why would they feel the need to offer up a separate unrelated, deceptively edited exchange? In the quest to catch Barr in a lie, there sure seems to be plenty of rampant dishonesty to go around.

    https://freebeacon.com/blog/maddow-...y-edited-clip-to-argue-barr-lied-to-congress/
     
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    No
    Hey, you asked me.
     
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    No? Right, they didn't kill him.
     
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    Got nothing to do with killing him.

    But my recent point was haven't we beaten this subject to death by now? Do you really think you're changing anyone's opinion? I know I'm not changing any opinions at this late stage in the thread.
     
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    A. Maris and I aren't the same guy..
    B. I didn't ask you anything in this thread.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    A. I never inferred you were Maris;
    B. Don't I see a question mark in this retort to my post? "No? Right, they didn't kill him."
     
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    A. I was asking MarAzul
    B. You mentioned something about your recent point and that we were beating this subject to death or at a dead end or something. Nothing to do with me, Maris is the one who posted the covington kid's lawsuits.
     
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    Your version of what those Pulitzer prize winners did to young Nick would be interesting if you care to characterize it.
     
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    A. Sorry, I don't see any of Marzy's stuff. He's a nice guy and I usually like him but we clash on some issues. Whereas you and me are like two peas in a pod;
    B. Okay, I get your point about you and Maris and the lawsuit that really has nothing to do with you.
     
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