Fantasy football for nfl forums next year.

Discussion in 'Fantasy Football' started by Bucs40etrain, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. Glenso1188

    Glenso1188 nfl-*****s member

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    I think a keeper league would be great. If theres room I would gladly join.
     
  2. Bucs40etrain

    Bucs40etrain *********

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    I myself like a 2 year franchise league.
    Where you can franchise 1 player on your
    team. If you draft priest holmes in the
    first next year you lose your first pick.

    If you draft a vick in the 6th round due to
    his injury, u lose your 6th round pick the
    next year for vick in round 6.

    I remember i took jamal lewis in a keeper
    league at the 17th round the year he was out
    with his torm acl. The next year i was money
    at round 17.
     
  3. Cowboy71

    Cowboy71 Dallas Cowboys *********

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bucs40etrain)</div><div class='quotemain'>I myself like a 2 year franchise league. Where you can franchise 1 player on your team. If you draft priest holmes in the first next year you lose your first pick.

    If you draft a vick in the 6th round due to his injury, u lose your 6th round pick the
    next year for vick in round 6.

    I remember i took jamal lewis in a keeper league at the 17th round the year he was out with his torm acl. The next year i was money at round 17.</div>

    I like this idea, only I say you lose your first round pick. After all, if it is a franchise player, it is a good one. Actually, there has been other various penalties in addition like you also drop to the bottom of the second round as well or lose the second round pick as well....depends on the size of your league as to what penalty is too harsh or too lenient. Also, you only get to franchise the guy one year and then the next year you cannot.

    I would rather do something like that rather than a true keeper league, but if you do a true keeper league, you would have to have a clean slate starting this year and move forward from there. It makes a different on how you draft and it wouldn't be fair to penalize those who picked the Rich Gannons of the world last year.

    Now, looking at your comment Bucs, I see a variation we once did that I forgot about. In addition to a franchise player, we also had 1 RFA. If someone drafted your RFA, you got the draft slot in the round that you took the RFA in the previous draft. It wasn't as complicated as it sounded, but we did run into problems when the round the RFA was drafted in was later than the previous year. We just had to come to an agreement on how to handle it.

    If you do have a keeper league, you should consider opening up the roster size to account for one or two positions for IR guys only.
     
  4. Bucs40etrain

    Bucs40etrain *********

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    Excellent point cowboy i like the whole idea
    Here's another idea for franchising a man u
    take off waivers. A guy like domnic davis or
    anquan boldin drops no lower then 10th rd.
    Therefore if you tag someone who turned
    into a stud from waivers, he can drop no
    further then the 10th rd, your 10th
    round pick is now anquan boldin. or dd.

    Sf, if you need any help or any ideas im
    always avalible to assist. Ive done 2 money
    leagues and 3 freebies. Ive basiclally seen
    all the formats and im sure others have as
    well. Tell ya the toughest leagues are the ones
    that you have a salery cap to work with, thats
    where the skill is.
     
  5. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    How come you guys are so scared of the larger leagues??? Who cares if the talent is stretched thin, its stretched thin for everyone and I think the more teams the more challenge, I dont understand why you guys fear it so much.....There are 32 real teams so theres enough starters for up to 32 fantasy teams.....imagine having to draft your back in round 1 because if you dont, you dont get a starter, or the same with a QB, it would be great!
     
  6. Steelerfan_2005

    Steelerfan_2005 The Peacekeeper XL

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    No one has a week to conduct a draft Beef! We'd all have to take vacation days to do a 32 team draft. [​IMG]
     
  7. Glenso1188

    Glenso1188 nfl-*****s member

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    I like Beefs idea, it would really make you dig deep to find some hidden talent. Although that would be a looooonnnnnggggg day of drafting.
     
  8. The Return of the Raider

    The Return of the Raider Active Member

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Glenso1188)</div><div class='quotemain'>I like Beefs idea, it would really make you dig deep to find some hidden talent. Although that would be a looooonnnnnggggg day of drafting.</div>

    Exactly. While I like the idea, it's hard enough to coordinate all of us between 4 different time zones during our daily lives. I work 9-5 M-F, so it would likely have to be an all Saturday thing for me. (I'm down with it, I just think that it's a tough sell).

    On the other hand, we could make 2 leagues, and my only request is that I be in 1 of the 2 leagues, preferably the head-to-head league. What are the minimum and maximum teams allowed? For example, if we had 20 people interested, we could do 2 leagues of 10 teams each, increase the roster size, and still have plenty of talent to go around. That might please everyone.
     
  9. Cowboy71

    Cowboy71 Dallas Cowboys *********

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    Beef, I wouldn't use the word scared. In fact, if we needed to do it, we would be fine. I have been in a few in the past, and I have never enjoyed it as much. Here is why.

    Fantasy football is a competition, pure and simple. However, it is also something fun I like to do throughout the season. There are a few things that can happen with larger leagues that can ruin that. I see a lot more people losing interest half way into the season. Even if I am successful, I don't have as much fun and that doesn't do it for me if I have no one to trash talk with.

    First off, everyone is going to draft 2-3 quarterbacks. If you even have just a 20 team league, odds are you are going to draft only 1 starter. If that guy goes down to injury, you don't have a quarterback that is probably going to play. You can try to trade for a starter, but no one is going to give up a starter unless you pay dearly in return. The only hope you can have is to trade with the guy that has your starter's backup (or be lucky enough to draft him) and hope he doesn't feel how needy you really are. That's where my mention of drafting a team QB softens the blow.

    Secondly, you are the coach of your team. Unfortunately, the NFL coaches of your fantasy players don't consult with you. There are 32 teams, but I would question whether there are really 32 starters. The Eagles have great success running the football with their three-headed RB monster. However, this causes a problem with fantasy football. Fantasy football success doesn't mirror NFL success in cases like this. The Eagles have the luxury of switching players in between games. In fantasy football, you don't have that choice. The Eagles could use one of the three more than others and change that from game to game. You could have all three, and not have a good idea which to start.

    Fantasy Football is a game of skill AND luck. When the luck becomes too prominent, it becomes less attractive to me. You know, with our egos, we like to think that we drafted the best players, not just the luckiest or healthiest. I guess it comes down to the fact that everyone has this problem evenly, which is not a problem with me. However, when you get pressed to start a backup, one that is not starting in real life, I think it diminishes the whole thing a little.

    I looked back at what I wrote, and I don't think I explained myself very well. I would be fine with a larger league, but it doesn't appeal to me as much.

    Its kind of similar to the first year I ever played fantasy football. I joined two others guys just to kind of try it out. With only three teams, it was sure fun to look at the team you drafted, but week to week it was a lot of the same kind of luck. Well, lets see, who do I start this week: Montana, Elway, or Moon? LOL.
     
  10. Pats37

    Pats37 The Next Big Thing

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    I said before I'd be down but if there are as many teams as you guys are saying it will be ridiculous. Can someone list the people that were in it last year and the new people as well. Just curious who exactly was in it.

    I personally don't care if I'm in next seaosn or not I do enough money leagues with my friends that I really don't need another league but it would be fun to do it with all the forum people.
     
  11. Giantsfan1

    Giantsfan1 Thread Killer

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    Lets hear a little story shall we!!!!!!!!!
    a certain team was snubbed by auto draft and had mike vick as the starter
    HE GETS HURT!!!! THIS "TEAM" is desperate so he throws Quincy Carter in there getting him off waivers. THAT WAS A SUCESS THAT WORKS

    someone said that u might wind up with Jef Blake as ur QB
    but that also means u prolly have a top RB or WR so it'll even out there ur choices
     
  12. Bucs40etrain

    Bucs40etrain *********

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    Try drafting at the 20 spot and not having
    two of everyone. lol See how good your team
    is when you have jeff blake as your qb.
    correll buckhalter as your starting rb.

    I think 2 seperate leagues is great.
    The winner of both leagues, face off in
    the same league the next season.

    I vote for 2 seprate leagues nfl forums fantasy
    football north. Nfl forums fantasy football
    south.
     
  13. Pats37

    Pats37 The Next Big Thing

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    I like East and West personally. hahahah
     
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    Giantsfan1 Thread Killer

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    I think that it should be a 18 man league,
    Through 3 rounds last year Moulds and many others were still available and a lot of RB's
    yea someone will wind up with iki Barber as their best RB and prolly like
    James Thrash as a starter but if u draft right you wont need to complain, every year there are 10 -20 sleeepers barely tooken in the draft,
    Not in this case

    I dont like the East vs West for 1 reason

    There wont be a winner of the league until next year

    YAHOO is the best FFB site + its free
    I used to d Sportsline before they started charging and the had a east vs west thing but you drafted together

    So youre telling me that
    THIS IS LAST YEARS DRAFT

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1...ults&lid=131612

    Averagly you could still wind up with many different good players
     
  15. Bucs40etrain

    Bucs40etrain *********

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    Giants, for one your not gonna win a ff
    league with tiki and james thrash as your
    staters. And basing many drafts ive seen
    since i did 5 last year. Every league rbs were
    gone by the third round.

    tomlinson
    r williams
    portis
    faulk
    holmes
    alexander
    mccalister
    a green
    e james
    jamal lewis.

    All these names were gone by first round,
    after these names the rbs are a huge
    drop off for ff points. In a 20 man leag
    try using the avgs rb by commitee
    as your starters at the 18th round.
    Yes there's still stephen davis,warrick dunn
    and tiki, but in a 20 man league by the
    third round there gone. People will know
    that the first 9 guys who took them stud
    rbs will get them avg backs if there left
    on the board if they come back to them.
    Especailly when you have to start 3 rbs
    weekly. This is why the two of everyone was
    created to make the league competible for
    everyone, especially if you have to wait 1 hour
    for your pick at 20th spot in the first round.

    Problem is dont think anyone has that kinda
    time to be here, to draft in a 20 man league.
    Steelerfan had a great idea, it would work when
    he has the software, all he has to do is create
    a website for us all in nfl forums and only nfl
    forum members, this includes the man who
    created this forum, our webmaster who im
    assuming with be competing against us [​IMG]
    Steeler, would just create a site for us all
    to look over our weekely standings, etc to
    do our lineups via by email or even yourself.

    Who knows maybe our webmaster and sf can
    work togeither and have it all done on this very
    forum. Instead of the others ff formats.
    I cant advertise the other ff sites names but
    we all know who im talking about. [​IMG]
    Everyone has what 7 months til football again
    Theres alot of time.
     
  16. Philly_Freak93

    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    2 man bench
     
  17. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    If you pick 20th in a 20 man league, it means you pick 1st in the even number rounds so it all evens out in the end, as far as the time, we all had time for a 14 man draft, I think we can find time for a 20+....I just dont want people left out like this year, and if we have to go to 32 teams, I would be willing to do that....there were 14 members in our original league, but there were 20+ interested when the idea came about, and now there are even more here, so I say we do whatever it takes to accomadate everyone and get them in
     
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    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    i like the idea in the other forum. 2 conferences, NFC and AFC then have divisions in each. then have divisions.
     
  19. Thoth

    Thoth Sisyphus in training

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    Y'all should know Ba is down w/ thjis sickness. What I'm saying is count me in.

    We could have many leagues.

    I don't know about East vs west as only TD4td, Galvy, Chip (SendembackAl), & myself live out west but I am sure some plan will be devised.

    Imagine two 14 team leagues and the winners of both meet in week 17 to determine the grand champion.

    The more participants which means more competition for players will favor those who excel research i.e. me!

    Depending on oue next FFL draft length, we should see if Berman will come in & do the play by play.

    One of the leagues s/b called the 'paulbrown' memorial ffl; shouldn't it? Nah; what was I thinking???

    I do have 3 excellent team names already under consideration.
     

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