Farewell Reggie Miller -- Pistons Advance

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Most should respect Reggie simply because he is a hard worker. When you look at him he isn't really athletically or physically gifted, he is just one of those average guys who puts in a humongous effort no matter what circumstances and that's what I appreciate him most for. A class act and a bad (as in good) basketball player, the NBA could use more people like him.</div>

true that....and wat a way to end his 18 year career....27 pts on 11-16 shooting although it dont really matter....Bye Reggie..and thanks for the memories....

 

I have nothing but respect for this man. Way to go Reggie on an amazing career .

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah it would be cool to see him be an analyst. Hopefully he is happy with whatever he is doing and enjoys his life.</div>
Yeah, he can join his sister, Cheryl on the sidelines one day.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">LMAO and you have Jefferson as the "next MJ"?
</div>Had you bothered to read underneath my signature graphic, you would know that it's a joke. I don't understand the correlation between that and what I said though.

 

What everybody else said just took the words right out of my mouth. I`m gonna miss Reggie and everything he brought to the game. I`ll miss him, and so will thousands.

Another thing that really even moved me, and I saw nobody talk about it. The final camera shot of Reggie. Did anybody see how ESPN set it up? It just showed him walking down the hall to the locker room, all by himself, ending the Reggie Miller era. It was such a beautiful thing...

As for his future, I do think he said something like "maybe I can help out you guys" referring to the ESPN media crew, so hopefully he`ll join that cast or TNT`s, I`d love to see him continue with the game.

 

The most impressive thing about it, most often people don't retire when they're performing well. How many can say they had 25+ points in the final game of their career.

This was the perfect time for Reggie to walk out.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I can't remember any other player getting so much praise during a farewell tour. Even for MJ, it wasn't like this. Stockton's retirement went practically without a notice, even though he had a superior career. What is it about Reggie Miller that attracted all of this adoration in his final season? Is it something about his personality or style of play that endeared him to fans? I'm really curious about this.</div>

I'm with you. I hate to be insensitive, but why the hell is everyone crying? Why is everyone going to miss him? He was never an NBA First Teamer, never an NBA Second Teamer, and just a three time NBA Third Teamer. With the respect that he is getting, you'd think he was one of the 50 greatest players to ever play. Where was this kind of farewell when Mitch Richmond and Glen Rice left the game? Here's a question for you: Who has been elected to more NBA First Teams, Latrell Sprewell or Reggie Miller? Reggie was clutch, but so was Robert Horry. If Horry had just made the All-Star team three or four times, maybe he would be getting the same kind of send-off. It just seems like Miller's legacy is a creation of the media more than anything else.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm with you. I hate to be insensitive, but why the hell is everyone crying? Why is everyone going to miss him? He was never an NBA First Teamer, never an NBA Second Teamer, and just a three time NBA Third Teamer. With the respect that he is getting, you'd think he was one of the 50 greatest players to ever play. Where was this kind of farewell when Mitch Richmond and Glen Rice left the game? Here's a question for you: Who has been elected to more NBA First Teams, Latrell Sprewell or Reggie Miller? Reggie was clutch, but so was Robert Horry. If Horry had just made the All-Star team three or four times, maybe he would be getting the same kind of send-off. It just seems like Miller's legacy is a creation of the media more than anything else.</div>

Reggie carried that team for 18 seasons, hit incredible shot after incredible shot, created and thrived on his own style of play, was a player you just couldn't help but respect for so many reasons.

No one can make you respect or like him I guess. If you dont, you dont, but your in a minority. Reggie is just one of those guys, and he deserves every ounce of respect and praise he gets, and then some. Its not because of his statistics, or how many First-Teams hes made. Hes had enough of those acommplishments, being an Olympic Gold Medalist ( Dream Team, right?) made at least 4 All-Star teams. Who really cares about the 1st,2nd and 3rd teams anyways. They obviously dont show the greatest players in the game, a fact just proved by Reggie being absent from any of them. It's just about so many other things.


And by the way, excuse me if I misunderstand, but are you trying to say that Latrell Sprewell is a better player than Reggie Miller?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Reggie carried that team for 18 seasons, hit incredible shot after incredible shot, created and thrived on his own style of play, was a player you just couldn't help but respect for so many reasons.

No one can make you respect or like him I guess. If you dont, you dont, but your in a minority. Reggie is just one of those guys, and he deserves every ounce of respect and praise he gets, and then some. Its not because of his statistics, or how many First-Teams hes made. Hes had enough of those acommplishments, being an Olympic Gold Medalist ( Dream Team, right?) made at least 4 All-Star teams. Who really cares about the 1st,2nd and 3rd teams anyways. They obviously dont show the greatest players in the game, a fact just proved by Reggie being absent from any of them. It's just about so many other things.


And by the way, excuse me if I misunderstand, but are you trying to say that Latrell Sprewell is a better player than Reggie Miller?</div>

So the way that you say it, it sounds like he's special to you because he stayed on the same team and hit game winning shots. Four all-star games or so is nice. It make him a good player, but it by no means makes him a great player. The whole point you are trying to make that "he is just one of those guys" makes me think that you are just buying into the media hype. If you don't judge a player's greatness on his statistics and achievements, then what do you judge him on? Post season success? Well, we know Miller doesn't have anything to show for there. And no, I'm not saying Latrell Sprewell is a better player. Don't put words into my mouth.

 

i totally agree hunter

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">So the way that you say it, it sounds like he's special to you because he stayed on the same team and hit game winning shots. Four all-star games or so is nice. It make him a good player, but it by no means makes him a great player. The whole point you are trying to make that "he is just one of those guys" makes me think that you are just buying into the media hype. If you don't judge a player's greatness on his statistics and achievements, then what do you judge him on? Post season success? Well, we know Miller doesn't have anything to show for there. And no, I'm not saying Latrell Sprewell is a better player. Don't put words into my mouth.</div>

I dont buy into media hype, Reggie Miller was a special player, and everyone has their own reasons for liking him. I think players can still be great without having a ring, but thats personal opinion. I think hes made his fair share of accomplishments in statistical ways ( all-time most 3-pointers made and about 12th on all-time scoring) and I think having the most all-time playoff points is quite a feat despite never winning a championship.

I'm not going to write you a persausive essay or anything, you dont have to consider him an NBA great, but he does deserve respect at least.
And you know damn well I didn't put words in your mouth, I said to please excuse me if I misunderstand you.

 

I felt a bit teary when I realized he was done, and I'm not even a Pacers fan. (I ain't cry though, that's not how I get down )In fact, I probably shouldn't like him because he stood a threat against us in the playoffs back in the MJ days. But nonetheless, very emotional moment, to Pacers and probably all NBA fans (except the Reggie-haters).

 

Yeah, I don't care that MJ didn't get this sendoff (his first retirement wasn't even real, and the second and third couldn't be taken seriously) John Stockton deserved it, sure, but he wasn't a part of a cinderella team like this years Pacers.

The Pacers were a huge story this year, and Reggie was a big part of it. Let's not complain that he got a sendoff that other people didn't, because when you really look at it, it wasn't as big a deal as some of you are making it out to be.

They covered his last game, and watched him hug everyone, WHAT A SENDOFF! And they talked about him the next day on sports radio. Does he not deserve at least that?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting briang8818:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I don't care that MJ didn't get this sendoff (his first retirement wasn't even real, and the second and third couldn't be taken seriously) John Stockton deserved it, sure, but he wasn't a part of a cinderella team like this years Pacers.

The Pacers were a huge story this year, and Reggie was a big part of it. Let's not complain that he got a sendoff that other people didn't, because when you really look at it, it wasn't as big a deal as some of you are making it out to be.

They covered his last game, and watched him hug everyone, WHAT A SENDOFF! And they talked about him the next day on sports radio. Does he not deserve at least that?</div>

Yeah, good point. He deserves what he got. It's not like they are replacing the Statue of Liberty with a statue of reggie. If you dont like him just let it go.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm with you. I hate to be insensitive, but why the hell is everyone crying? Why is everyone going to miss him? He was never an NBA First Teamer, never an NBA Second Teamer, and just a three time NBA Third Teamer. With the respect that he is getting, you'd think he was one of the 50 greatest players to ever play. Where was this kind of farewell when Mitch Richmond and Glen Rice left the game? Here's a question for you: Who has been elected to more NBA First Teams, Latrell Sprewell or Reggie Miller? Reggie was clutch, but so was Robert Horry. If Horry had just made the All-Star team three or four times, maybe he would be getting the same kind of send-off. It just seems like Miller's legacy is a creation of the media more than anything else.</div>

To answer your question...

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The one thing I will always respect about Reggie was he is, and always has been, a class-act both on and off the court.</div>

Basketball isn't all about achievements, statistics and reaching certain feats. To many including myself, basketball is a lifestyle it isn't all about what a player(NBA) does on the court it's what he does in entirety. Reggie Miller optimized everything that's good about the NBA. But that's just my take on this, you may not understand and you may never understand because those are your feelings towards Reggie and you can't help but let those feelings remain as it is. But for those people who truly saw what Reggie brought to the NBA from his community work, memorable moments, flexibility and the fact that he represents the NBA well will be missed. When you have somebody like him retiring and leaving the NBA in the hands of people like Ron Artest what good will there be left in the NBA? I'm not saying the NBA is going to take a 360 turn because we still have good guys remaining such as Allen, Hill, and Jamison etc. but at the same time there will be something missing. When you look at the Pacers now, the whole franchise is going to have a different look and fell. However, if you're making an argument on why his retirement made more noise than someone like John Stockton, then that just goes to show you that statistics and achievements doesn?t isn?t everything. You might find that hard to swallow, but that's just how it is.

 

Even though Reggie's sendoff wasn't as elaborate as some are making it seem, you do realize that Reggie is the last link to the golden era of basketball, don't you?

With Reggie's retirement, the MJ era of basketball is oficially over. I think that deserves a little more than one day of publicity.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">To answer your question...



Basketball isn't all about achievements, statistics and reaching certain feats. To many including myself, basketball is a lifestyle it isn't all about what a player(NBA) does on the court it's what he does in entirety. Reggie Miller optimized everything that's good about the NBA. But that's just my take on this, you may not understand and you may never understand because those are your feelings towards Reggie and you can't help but let those feelings remain as it is. But for those people who truly saw what Reggie brought to the NBA from his community work, memorable moments, flexibility and the fact that he represents the NBA well will be missed. When you have somebody like him retiring and leaving the NBA in the hands of people like Ron Artest what good will there be left in the NBA? I'm not saying the NBA is going to take a 360 turn because we still have good guys remaining such as Allen, Hill, and Jamison etc. but at the same time there will be something missing. When you look at the Pacers now, the whole franchise is going to have a different look and fell. However, if you're making an argument on why his retirement made more noise than someone like John Stockton, then that just goes to show you that statistics and achievements doesn?t isn?t everything. You might find that hard to swallow, but that's just how it is.</div>

I'm sorry, but that was the biggest steaming pile of crap I have ever read in my life. Do you honestly believe that Reggie Miller is the only player to ever have that "good guy" image off the court? What about Glen Rice? Did he not do the same community work that Reggie Miller did? Stop villanizing me and making me look like I don't care what a player does off the court, because I do. However, what makes Miller's off-the-court work more special than players like Shane Battier, Adonal Folye, Dikembe Mutumbo, and hundreds of others? Besides, that's no reason to cry about a player leaving the game, because he did good off-the-court work. And on the court, he wasn't such a good guy when I saw him. He would flop more than any other player I've seen in my life. Stop building up this fictional super hero. Leaving the NBA in the hands of Ron Artest? You are so blind it's hilarious. There are more good, hardworking kids coming into the NBA than there are Ron Artests. Even when you look at last year's draft, the number one pick was a High School kid, and instead of gangs and drugs, do you know what he was passionate about outside of basketball? He was passionate about relgion. The number two pick, Emeka Okafor, graduated with a 3.5 (?) from Connecticut. So I don't know why you think the NBA will go to hell without Reggie.

The fact of the matter is that Reggie Miller was not a superstar. He was not even on Glen Rice's level. So why give him a bigger sendoff then Glen Rice? There's got to be a better answer to that question than this pile of crap -

"Basketball isn't all about achievements, statistics and reaching certain feats. To many including myself, basketball is a lifestyle it isn't all about what a player(NBA) does on the court it's what he does in entirety."

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even though Reggie's sendoff wasn't as elaborate as some are making it seem, you do realize that Reggie is the last link to the golden era of basketball, don't you?

With Reggie's retirement, the MJ era of basketball is oficially over. I think that deserves a little more than one day of publicity.</div>

No respect for Dikembe Mutumbo, Gary Payton, Steve Smith, Kevin Willis, Grant Hill, Jason Kidd, or Glen Robinson?

 

I'm glad that you enjoyed it my post Voodoo Child. I really did, because you actually had to go through it all.

But to be concise, it's apparent that there will be no answer that can convince on why Miller received such a huge sendoff. I'm not trying to speak to everyone, but what I said in my post can be said for majority in why Miller got such a huge sendoff. There is saying that there are things in life that just can't be explained and unfortunately this may be one of those rare occurrences that may apply to you on this whole Miller appreciation fiasco. Hey, maybe you're right, you just maybe a little too insensitive after all, that may be it, because you have a point. Glen Rice and Reggie Miller community work wasn't any different from one another, and Glen Rice was indeed better, but yet at the end of the day Miller will be appreciated more. Why? That's just how it is. Again, I think I hit it on the nail with my previous post and the fact how much Miller meant to the city of Indiana and how he?s appreciated by many fans, enemies and the greatest players in the world. Obviously you think otherwise and I've seen the type of person you are on these forums and it would seem impossible to convince to think otherwise because with you it seems as if you're set to one thing you'll stick with that all the way. Again, you brought up good points on why someone like Glen Rice should have recieved a bigger sendoff, but sorry buddy, that's just how things are. Facts wise, Rice should have recieved a bigger sendoff, but when you add the emotional factor and probably even the sympothy factor Miller deserved a bigger sendoff after all. Hey, maybe Miller had more fans than Rice.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm glad that you enjoyed it my post Voodoo Child. I really did, because you actually had to go through it all.

But to be concise, it's apparent that there will be no answer that can convince on why Miller received such a huge sendoff. I'm not trying to speak to everyone, but what I said in my post can be said for majority in why Miller got such a huge sendoff. There is saying that there are things in life that just can't be explained and unfortunately this may be one of those rare occurrences that may apply to you on this whole Miller appreciation fiasco. Hey, maybe you're right, you just maybe a little too insensitive after all, that may be it, because you have a point. Glen Rice and Reggie Miller community work wasn't any different from one another, and Glen Rice was indeed better, but yet at the end of the day Miller will be appreciated more. Why? That's just how it is. Again, I think I hit it on the nail with my previous post and the fact how much Miller meant to the city of Indiana and how he?s appreciated by many fans, enemies and the greatest players in the world. Obviously you think otherwise and I've seen the type of person you are on these forums and it would seem impossible to convince to think otherwise because with you it seems as if you're set to one thing you'll stick with that all the way. Again, you brought up good points on why someone like Glen Rice should have recieved a bigger sendoff, but sorry buddy, that's just how things are. Facts wise, Rice should have recieved a bigger sendoff, but when you add the emotional factor and probably even the sympothy factor Miller deserved a bigger sendoff after all. Hey, maybe Miller had more fans than Rice.</div>

Bingo. He didn't get the big sendoff because he was one of the greatest players to play the game. He got a big sendoff because he had a lot of fans. No need to try to make up a bunch of fluff about how great of a person he was in the community when we both know he just got the big sendoff because he had a lot of fans.