OT Father lunges at Larry Nassar in court

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    As a coach you handled things exactly right. You did the correct and responsible thing in a world that gets crazier everyday. I have two sons and spent most of their grade school years coaching them in baseball and basketball. This stretches back almost 30 years and things have changed since then (and not for the better obviously). I never had to worry much about the bathroom thing as we practiced at the schools they attended and anyone present was pretty much a known commodity. But even back then it was good to have a paranoid streak because you never know how a kid (or parent) might respond if playing time or behavior was an issue (psycho kids DO exist, as do psycho parents). But I never left a field or gym without knowing all the kids were accounted for by their parents or otherwise approved guardians. I never took a kid home without my own kid(s) in the car, or without their parents knowing I was giving them a ride. Hell, I was never alone with any kid but my own. And I always tried to communicate right up front with the parents over any issues or concerns that they (or myself) might have so they didn’t get blown out of proportion.

    I rarely had any issues with kids or parents (other than about playing time) and sometimes I felt like I was going overboard, but sometimes (not too often...but often enough) a kid would be the rudderless child of clueless and oblivious parents, and while they were on my watch they were my responsibility. And all these years later no one can EVER come down the pike and accuse me or my assistants of anything other than the best of intentions......
     
  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Normally I don't question peoples reading skills but...

    He was indirectly blaming the parents, which is what I was saying people would do.
     
  3. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    He was LITERALLY talking about after the fact. Reread your post again and again until you see the difference.

    I suppose you can put it in the "etc horse shit" you added but he was talking about parents not believing their kids.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Apparently you didn't follow the case, because there were actually parents that punished their daughters when they tried to tell them what was happening. They called them liars.

    You don't think those parents deserve some share of the blame?
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    http://people.com/sports/kyle-stephens-larry-nassar-sexual-abuse/

     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I am not indirectly blaming the parents. I am directly putting blame on parents that did not believe their kids when they told them what was going on. It's one thing to say that the parents should have known, but it's another thing entirely to have your kids tell you something is wrong and to just flat out not believe them, while continuing to put them in that same situation. At that point the parents become negligent and culpable.
     
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  7. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah, and that has nothing to do with what this father did.
     
  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    guh, there are times when I wonder why I even bother posting here.
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't know the circumstances of this particular parent in this whole shit show, but all I'm saying is that not all the parents are completely blameless in this.

    If your kid told you something was wrong, and you keep bringing them back despite their pleas for help, how does that not make you partially responsible?
     
  10. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I wonder why you post here all the time. You dismiss any judgement towards any of the parents as some sort of online persona and then act righteous after the fact. What's your point, because I guess I don't get it.

    Nate saying that parents that called their kids liars deserve some blame doesn't seem too much like your description of "real Americans" or whatever the fuck it was.

    Should the parents be arrested or ostracized? Nope, but people can learn from them if they made mistakes.

    I really can't fathom underage girls being left alone with a male doctor EVER but maybe I'm naive and it happens all the time.
     
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  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The truly scary part is that some of the sexual abuse happened WHILE THE PARENTS WERE IN THE ROOM. How does that even happen?
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I don't fucking know, because the guy looks like an asexual dork?

    I didn't really pay much attention to this story. Curious to see how his prison time goes.
     
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    just have to be smart. kidnap him before he goes to jail and go full dexter. of course judge wont let you get a piece.
     
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    rasheedfan2005 Well-Known Member

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    a doctor stuck his pinky in my nut sack when i was younger. just to clear me for basketball.
     
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    Because parents don't know what is legitimate medical practice and what isn't. Reading an article about it a few weeks ago, apparently he used an 'inter-vaginal" therapy for certain muscular issues and there are such therapies, but not for the things he was using it for and not how he did it. But a parent wouldn't know that.

    And, honestly, a lot of people--most people--have an aversion to question authorities.
     
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    Yeah, I did the coach thing for Pop Warner football and also Basketball about 40 years ago. Playing time and position the kid plays was the thing that got the parents upset. A couple years back I took on Basketball coach for my Grandsons team when they did not have a coach. Damn! It was a 130 miles each way to practice and games for me!

    But armed with past experience, I had a plan. I roped in the first two fathers that had a bitch and the next one to boot. Had them helping at the practices, and then assisting at the game. I continued on for the first two games, then called in. They had the job. Heh heh! The boys had a coach and I was please to have help convert some noisy dads in to contributors.:cool2:

    I had those kids running the Princeton too. Well, sort of. But it devolved into helter skelter ball as the dads took over. But it was fine with me.
    Now it is one thing that the parents don't know about the Princeton offense or what ever, but just letting this Creep do what ever he wishes as a Dr. ?
    Not understandable. There was some sort of reality disconnect going on there.
     
  17. MarAzul

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    :huh:
     
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    Parents are highly knowledgeable about osteopathic techniques?

    Link

    If even doctors consider this an issue that's tough to talk about definitively, there's no way a parent is going to know if what he's doing is a proper technique or not. Considering he was a highly-respected doctor, most parents aren't going to assume he's a pedophile.
     
  19. MarAzul

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    Come on now! This Creep wants to intravaginal What! On my 13 year old daughter!!!
    This doesn't gather some close attention? Where the heck is this world?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Ban guns.

    Some people are just bad, and this guy is one of the worst. Serial abuser of young girls over a long period of time. There's absolutely no excusing it or him.

    It is mind boggling how he was able to get away with it for so long.

    I cannot help but have empathy for the guy who attacked him in court. The man had 3 daughters who were in the program. Scarred for life.
     

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