Favourite Current Mainstream Rapper

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  1. NTC

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    <div class="quote_poster">Air Fresh Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yup

    and 50 Cents First ablum was a nice album. I'm not saying he is a good rapper, but that album was nice.

    and how would you know if the majority of the people who bought the albums know nothing about hip-hop? That is what is called speculation.

    Wayne doesn't even get played on BET-106 Park, and he is hardly ever on MTV or any other show. A lot of his success has come from his mixtapes, which mainstream fans hardly ever listen to.</div>

    What are you talking about? He's released 4 platinum albums, and one that has gone gold.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In 2004, Wayne Carter released Tha Carter. This album is marked as a personal milestone as he claimed to have finally perfected his trade. It was also Tha Carter that finally earned him little notability outside the south as a lyricist because at that time (and even still today), southern rappers are stereotyped as having little to no lyrical ability. He claims to be living proof that the stereotype is a dud as his lyrics are never written, contrary to the way most lyricists produce their rhymes. He is self-proclaimed to be second to only Jay-Z as one of the best freestyle artists in the world (this,along with the "best rapper alive" statement, has caused controversy because many feel that he is not really as good as he thinks he is).

    On November 11, 2005 Wayne released Tha Carter II which further solidified his spot as a contemporary rapper, noticeably producing the album without the prominent beats of Mannie Fresh. Tha Carter II sold about 238,000 copies debuting at no. 2 on the Billboard Top 200 albums chart and has been certified platinum. The lead single off the album, "Fireman", became a hit in the US, peaking at 32 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. The second single, "Grown Man", was solicited to urban radios in January of 2006 in hopes of spreading to Top 40 Mainstream and then to the Hot 100, but failed to do so and failed to receive any attention due to lack of promotion and no video.[citation needed] The third single "Hustler Muzik" received a video and gained minor attention also. "Hustler Muzik" reached #87 on the Billboard Hot 100.</div>
     
  2. Chutney

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    That wikipedia article is so biased, it's not even funny.
     
  3. NTC

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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Still can't call those facts though. I mean, almost everyone might agree with it. And it might be really valid. But, you're judging him to standard of lyrical ability, flow that other people may not agree with. Not saying I disagree with you, because I haven't doubted anything you've said about Wayne. But, a fact would be something like "Lil Wayne is male." Saying "Lil Wayne sucks" or "he has terrible flow" are opinions, even if 99.9% agree with you.</div>

    Well I'm not going to argue with that.

    Just want to make clear, especially to Air Fresh, that I'm not having a go at you for liking Lil' Wayne, I'm just saying, Lil' Wayne may like to think he is the best rapper alive, I'm just trying to point out that that isnt the case.

    I will say though, I listened to a bit more of his music, and he isnt AS bad as I first thought, although my original comments still stand.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wayne doesn't even get played on BET-106 Park, and he is hardly ever on MTV or any other show. A lot of his success has come from his mixtapes, which mainstream fans hardly ever listen to.
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    I don't watch BET or MTV a lot, but I KNOW Wayne has always gotten his fair share of play on those stations.....I'm with NTC on this one, I really don't care who does and who doesn't like the man, but to claim that he is "the best rapper alive" is ridiculous.......opinions CAN be wrong.......I could say that Spudd Webb was the greatest basketball player ever......it's an opinion yes, but it's a wrong one.......opinions need to have some kind of valid argument behind them.
     
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    Obviously he isn't the best rapper alive compared to legends....

    Maybe he is just adressing that to the current mainstream.

    The only Wayne song that got a lot of play on BET or MTV was Fireman. Hustler Muzik didn't get much, neither did shooter. Stuntin Like My Daddy gets some play.
     
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    Hustler Music got it's fair share of play also, and all the stuff he used to do with cash money, both group and solo got plenty of love from those stations also.
     
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    I agree with some saying 50 isn't too great but Get Rich or Die Trying was a hell of an ablum I enjoyed every song on there and it's probalby one of the best ablums in recent years. Also, Wayne's mixtapes are A LOT better than what he puts out on mainstream stuff.
     
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    I'm a dirty south fan. My favourite rapper is Young "the snowman" Jeezy.

    I just loved his Thug Motivation 101, 102 is pretty good, too.

    Also his freestyles are good. "Can't Ban the Snowman" was good and "Trap or Die (Gangsta Grillz Edition) was very good.


    Also I like Dipset. Cam'Ron, Jim Jones and other are hot.

    I just started to listen 'em so I'll write the MAIN reasons later.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> a dirty south fan. My favourite rapper is Young "the snowman" Jeezy.

    I just loved his Thug Motivation 101, 102 is pretty good, too.

    Also his freestyles are good. "Can't Ban the Snowman" was good and "Trap or Die (Gangsta Grillz Edition) was very good.


    Also I like Dipset. Cam'Ron, Jim Jones and other are hot.

    I just started to listen 'em so I'll write the MAIN reasons later.
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    Lord help this child.
     
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    I'm not trying to be a smart ass with this comment, but I would genuinely like to hear some reasons as to why you people think the likes of Young Jeezy, Lil' Wayne etc. are so good?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not trying to be a smart ass with this comment, but I would genuinely like to hear some reasons as to why you people think the likes of Young Jeezy, Lil' Wayne etc. are so good?</div>

    *crickets*
     
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    Why I think Wayne is good?

    His flow is nice, has multiple flows on some tracks.

    Wayne's Punchlines are nice, he always have that line that just makes me go back and be like wow I never even realized he was saying that.

    Music you can bump to, like play loud in your car.

    Has shown versatility in raps, makes the songs for the ladies, the street records, the sentimental records.

    Typical reasons to why anybody would like a rapper.
     
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    I'm tryna figure out...who do you guys think is actually a good current main-stream rapper?!
    How strong of a flow, message, rhyme, skill do you expect from guys that make their money off a image they portray to be "gangsta" and a "hustla?!

    But my favorites are Nas(dunno if he has any new stuff out but he is pretty current), Yukmouth(Does he count as mainstream?), Chamillionaire(his tapes), T.I., Fabo, Juelz Santana...
     
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    Snowman's Thug Motivation 101 was the best of all-time albums (I'm a huge fan of Jeezy), but from the 102 the only superb song was I Love It (put that song is some real ****, men).
     
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    thug motivation 102 doesnt come out until December, so I don't know what your talking about. I love it, is the first single from the album
     
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    Umm... On his homepage it said clearly that it's coming out on October... And october is over soon.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lord help this child.</div>WTF do yo have to complain about now ??
     
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    Fact is something that can be proven. You can't prove that someone is boring, delivers weak, has confusing lyrics, etc.

    In terms of mainstream, I like Ludacris to an extent, DMX, Mobb Deep, Busta Rhymes, Fabolous, Kanye West, Nas, and Outkast.

    That is, if you consider those guys mainstream.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Junoon:</div><div class="quote_post">The compeititon level is really low in terms of actual SKILL nowadays, it's about who has the most catchiest beat and hook.</div>

    Agreed. There is no new guys that peak my interest.

    Also, you guys should stop busting each others chops for listening to music you may dislike. It's all based on personal preference, even if I dislike many of the rappers named here *COUGHJEEZY&LILWAYNECOUGH*, I'm not going to create an arguement out of it.

    Doesn't matter if their song has a story, or truth behind it. What matters is if people like it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Flow Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Umm... On his homepage it said clearly that it's coming out on October... And october is over soon.</div>

    Well either he hasn't updated his page, or thats not his official page.

    Its coming out in December barring pushbacks or push forwards, and I know this for a fact

    edit I go to youngjeezy.com and there is a poster that says "Inspiration 12.12.06" lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Flow Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Snowman's Thug Motivation 101 was the best of all-time albums (I'm a huge fan of Jeezy), but from the 102 the only superb song was I Love It (put that song is some real ****, men).</div>

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