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https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/2...documents-show-fbi-goal-was-to-get-him-fired/


Explosive New Flynn Documents Show FBI Goal Was To ‘Get Him Fired’
Handwritten notes from the FBI that had been withheld from Michael Flynn and his defense team show that the FBI's goal in investigating and ambushing Flynn was 'to get him fired.'
Sean Davis
Handwritten notes from the FBI that had been withheld from Michael Flynn and his defense team show that the FBI's goal in investigating and ambushing Flynn was 'to get him fired.'
New documents filed under seal last week by the Department of Justice provide the clearest evidence yet that the investigation and subsequent prosecution of former White House National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was a set-up from the beginning. Handwritten notes from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that had been inappropriately withheld from Flynn’s defense team for years show that a key goal of the agents investigating Flynn was “to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”

In early 2017, FBI agents planned to question Flynn under false pretenses and without his attorneys present regarding his conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. At the time of those conversations, Flynn was the top foreign policy adviser of the president-elect of the United States. By the time of the ambush FBI interview, Flynn had already been appointed as the White House national security adviser.

In the handwritten FBI notes, the note-taker, whose identity was not made clear in the document production, wrote that an alternate goal is to “get [Flynn] to admit breaking the Logan Act,” a reference to a 1799 law restricting communications between private citizens and foreign governments. The law is widely viewed as unconstitutional and has never been used to successfully prosecute a single American citizen. The previously secret notes do not explain that Flynn was not a private citizen, but rather the incoming national security adviser at the time of his conversations with world leaders.

Handwritten FBI Notes On Mi… by The Federalist on Scribd

Accusations that Flynn was a traitor to his country who violated the 1799 law gained steam following the criminal leak of top-secret information to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. Ignatius’ sources suggested the routine conversation between a top incoming White House adviser and his foreign counterparts might be a Logan Act violation. As absurd as the suggestion was, Ignatius dutifully parroted it.

News reports indicate U.S. Attorney John Durham is currently investigating the sources of those criminal leaks of top secret national security information to Ignatius. Although the agents who interviewed Flynn initially stated they believed Flynn told them the truth during the Jan. 24 interview, Special Counsel Robert Mueller nonetheless charged Flynn in late 2017 with making false statements to FBI investigators in the interview.

Flynn pleaded guilty to the charge at the time but is currently trying to withdraw that plea, citing ineffective counsel and government corruption in the conduct of his case.

The explosive new documents support Flynn’s latest claims that Obama-era Department of Justice (DOJ) and FBI officials had conspired to set him up from the beginning and that they never had any legitimate basis for investigating him.

The author of the handwritten notes filed under seal last week also wrote, “We have a case on Flynn and Russians,” and “our goal is to resolve case.” Despite those claims of treasonous Russian collusion, Mueller found, after a sprawling, multi-year, multimillion-dollar investigation, that there was zero evidence of illegal collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to steal the 2016 election from Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

In reality, the only Russian collusion that happened during the 2016 campaign was between the Clinton campaign and a subcontractor it funded, who was at the time working on behalf of a sanctioned Russian oligarch. That agent, former British intelligence operative Christopher Steele, created for the Clinton campaign the entire basis for charges of illegal collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. That document, known as the Steele dossier, has been thoroughly debunked since it was first released in early January 2017. The Clinton campaign, in cooperation with the Democratic National Committee, secretly funded the creation of that document and its distribution throughout the media. To date, none of its key collusion claims has been corroborated.

Steele’s operation became a primary basis for the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation of the Trump campaign. The false allegations contained in the dossier were also used by FBI and DOJ officials to justify four separate spy warrants against Carter Page, a Trump campaign affiliate. The FBI also investigated Flynn as part of this operation.

The FBI notes also show that the author of the document had misgivings about the FBI’s conduct in interviewing Flynn.

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

The redaction portion of the notes is believed to reference transcripts of phone calls between Flynn and other foreign officials. Those transcripts have never been publicly released, making it impossible to independently assess whether Flynn lied about those conversations.

The handwritten FBI notes end with a prophetic line, given the voluminous evidence of misconduct by FBI and DOJ officials in their investigation of Trump and their attempt to oust him from office.

“If we’re seen as playing games, [the White House] will be furious,” the author wrote. “Protect our institution by not playing games.”

Flynn is awaiting a ruling on his motion to have the entire case dismissed. You can read the documents unsealed and made available on the public court docket earlier this evening here.
 
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Seems like a logical course of action when you discover that a foreign agent has become the national security advisor. Getting him removed from office was clearly in the national interest.

barfo
 
https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/2...documents-show-fbi-goal-was-to-get-him-fired/


Explosive New Flynn Documents Show FBI Goal Was To ‘Get Him Fired’
Handwritten notes from the FBI that had been withheld from Michael Flynn and his defense team show that the FBI's goal in investigating and ambushing Flynn was 'to get him fired.'
Sean Davis
Handwritten notes from the FBI that had been withheld from Michael Flynn and his defense team show that the FBI's goal in investigating and ambushing Flynn was 'to get him fired.'
New documents filed under seal last week by the Department of Justice provide the clearest evidence yet that the investigation and subsequent prosecution of former White House National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was a set-up from the beginning. Handwritten notes from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that had been inappropriately withheld from Flynn’s defense team for years show that a key goal of the agents investigating Flynn was “to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”

In early 2017, FBI agents planned to question Flynn under false pretenses and without his attorneys present regarding his conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. At the time of those conversations, Flynn was the top foreign policy adviser of the president-elect of the United States. By the time of the ambush FBI interview, Flynn had already been appointed as the White House national security adviser.

In the handwritten FBI notes, the note-taker, whose identity was not made clear in the document production, wrote that an alternate goal is to “get [Flynn] to admit breaking the Logan Act,” a reference to a 1799 law restricting communications between private citizens and foreign governments. The law is widely viewed as unconstitutional and has never been used to successfully prosecute a single American citizen. The previously secret notes do not explain that Flynn was not a private citizen, but rather the incoming national security adviser at the time of his conversations with world leaders.

Handwritten FBI Notes On Mi… by The Federalist on Scribd

Accusations that Flynn was a traitor to his country who violated the 1799 law gained steam following the criminal leak of top-secret information to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. Ignatius’ sources suggested the routine conversation between a top incoming White House adviser and his foreign counterparts might be a Logan Act violation. As absurd as the suggestion was, Ignatius dutifully parroted it.

News reports indicate U.S. Attorney John Durham is currently investigating the sources of those criminal leaks of top secret national security information to Ignatius. Although the agents who interviewed Flynn initially stated they believed Flynn told them the truth during the Jan. 24 interview, Special Counsel Robert Mueller nonetheless charged Flynn in late 2017 with making false statements to FBI investigators in the interview.

Flynn pleaded guilty to the charge at the time but is currently trying to withdraw that plea, citing ineffective counsel and government corruption in the conduct of his case.

The explosive new documents support Flynn’s latest claims that Obama-era Department of Justice (DOJ) and FBI officials had conspired to set him up from the beginning and that they never had any legitimate basis for investigating him.

The author of the handwritten notes filed under seal last week also wrote, “We have a case on Flynn and Russians,” and “our goal is to resolve case.” Despite those claims of treasonous Russian collusion, Mueller found, after a sprawling, multi-year, multimillion-dollar investigation, that there was zero evidence of illegal collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to steal the 2016 election from Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

In reality, the only Russian collusion that happened during the 2016 campaign was between the Clinton campaign and a subcontractor it funded, who was at the time working on behalf of a sanctioned Russian oligarch. That agent, former British intelligence operative Christopher Steele, created for the Clinton campaign the entire basis for charges of illegal collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. That document, known as the Steele dossier, has been thoroughly debunked since it was first released in early January 2017. The Clinton campaign, in cooperation with the Democratic National Committee, secretly funded the creation of that document and its distribution throughout the media. To date, none of its key collusion claims has been corroborated.

Steele’s operation became a primary basis for the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation of the Trump campaign. The false allegations contained in the dossier were also used by FBI and DOJ officials to justify four separate spy warrants against Carter Page, a Trump campaign affiliate. The FBI also investigated Flynn as part of this operation.

The FBI notes also show that the author of the document had misgivings about the FBI’s conduct in interviewing Flynn.

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

The redaction portion of the notes is believed to reference transcripts of phone calls between Flynn and other foreign officials. Those transcripts have never been publicly released, making it impossible to independently assess whether Flynn lied about those conversations.

The handwritten FBI notes end with a prophetic line, given the voluminous evidence of misconduct by FBI and DOJ officials in their investigation of Trump and their attempt to oust him from office.

“If we’re seen as playing games, [the White House] will be furious,” the author wrote. “Protect our institution by not playing games.”

Flynn is awaiting a ruling on his motion to have the entire case dismissed. You can read the documents unsealed and made available on the public court docket earlier this evening here.



"Explosive"?...wow, talk about "sensationalism".
 
Seems like a logical course of action when you discover that a foreign agent has become the national security advisor. Getting him removed from office was clearly in the national interest.

barfo

Plus, he plead guilty. Now he wants a do over.
 
"Explosive"?...wow, talk about "sensationalism".

poor mags is all over this forum with his sensationalism and his middle school memes. At least I have succeeded in keeping him from constantly responding to my posts as he's ignoring me. He doesn;t like it when people ask him the tough questions I guess. Kind of like trump. :biglaugh:
 
Seems like a logical course of action when you discover that a foreign agent has become the national security advisor. Getting him removed from office was clearly in the national interest.

barfo
FBI’s job is not to get people fired. You maybe thinking of reporter’s job
 
The FBI is biased against national security threats? This is deeply disturbing.
It is disturbing. A department with that much power to ruin people’s life should be unbiased. Don’t you agree?
 
It is disturbing. A department with that much power to ruin people’s life should be unbiased. Don’t you agree?

Do I agree that the FBI should not be biased towards the types of threats they're employed to fight? I'm going to go with...no.

When police use sting operations or undercover agents to get criminals to confess, that's not actually "bias." I was being tongue-in-cheek in my previous post. That's doing their jobs. The FBI absolutely should have been trying to get Flynn to admit his guilt once they had reason to believe he was guilty.
 
Do I agree that the FBI should not be biased towards the types of threats they're employed to fight? I'm going to go with...no.

When police use sting operations or undercover agents to get criminals to confess, that's not actually "bias." I was being tongue-in-cheek in my previous post. That's doing their jobs. The FBI absolutely should have been trying to get Flynn to admit his guilt once they had reason to believe he was guilty.
Is that why the judge forced the FBI to reveal these notes? Seems the federal judge doesn’t feel the same.
 
I will remind everybody that Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. It's pretty certain the FBI knew he lied well before Flynn admitted his guilt

fuck that guy by the way....he was paid a half million by Turkey and he tried to have a Turkish cleric deported who was facing execution by Erdogan if he was deported. Talk about blood money
 
Is that why the judge forced the FBI to reveal these notes? Seems the federal judge doesn’t feel the same.

It doesn't mean anything like that. It means the judge believes that those notes should be available to be viewed. Requiring documents be made available happens all the time.
 
I will remind everybody that Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. It's pretty certain the FBI knew he lied well before Flynn admitted his guilt

fuck that guy by the way....he was paid a half million by Turkey and he tried to have a Turkish cleric deported who was facing execution by Erdogan if he was deported. Talk about blood money
Looks like he will be exonerated by the end of the week.
 
It is disturbing. A department with that much power to ruin people’s life should be unbiased. Don’t you agree?

Didn;t he plead guilty? Why would he plead guilty if he was innocent? Don't you agree?
 
I will remind everybody that Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. It's pretty certain the FBI knew he lied well before Flynn admitted his guilt

fuck that guy by the way....he was paid a half million by Turkey and he tried to have a Turkish cleric deported who was facing execution by Erdogan if he was deported. Talk about blood money

and yet mags think it's bad for the FBI to "ruin" a guys life, but it's okay for Flynn to essentially deport a guy to be murdered. The hypocrisy is amazing.
 
Didn;t he plead guilty? Why would he plead guilty if he was innocent? Don't you agree?
You obviously have no idea how the justice system works in this country. It’s called a plea deal. It’s how you get blackmailed into not spending the rest of your life in a cage while the prosecuting attorney gets a conviction added to their resume. Ask one of the couple million people in our prisons if everyone who pleads guilty does so because they felt like telling the truth lol.
 
Seems like a logical course of action when you discover that a foreign agent has become the national security advisor. Getting him removed from office was clearly in the national interest.

barfo
Trump and his cult say you're wrong and we know how intelligent they are.
 
You obviously have no idea how the justice system works in this country. It’s called a plea deal. It’s how you get blackmailed into not spending the rest of your life in a cage while the prosecuting attorney gets a conviction added to their resume. Ask one of the couple million people in our prisons if everyone who pleads guilty does so because they felt like telling the truth lol.
And how do you get a conviction of someone who is clean as a whistle? I would think that the threat of a conviction must be based on something. Or is it a deep state thing?
 
Trump and his cult say you're wrong and we know how intelligent they are.
I think it’s a cult for anyone feeling it’s perfectly normal for the FBI, the most powerful law enforcement agency in the world, able to violate people’s civil liberties because they violated their opponent.

It’s really quite disgusting
 
It used to be something I really admired of the left. Civil Libertarians used to fight against shit like this. Now they applaud it. Sad
 
let me get this straight....some FBI agent said something possibly inappropriate about Flynn & the investigation. Other than that. is there any evidence the FBI acted out of malice?

does it have any bearing on the evidence that Mueller used against Flynn to derive a guilty plea? Is there any proof this tainted the investigation by Mueller? Is there any proof evidence was false?

clearly Flynn lied to the investigation. Any proof the FBI coerced the lies, and if there is, does that constitute misconduct?
 
And how do you get a conviction of someone who is clean as a whistle? I would think that the threat of a conviction must be based on something. Or is it a deep state thing?
Right. Law and order in the United States of America is a shining example to the world, as long as it somehow takes your political opponents down a peg.
 
So the problem with Flynn is not that he in fact lied and he clearly did, but instead how he was proven to be a liar.

Besides, from what I understand, the case is not only inactive, it's also well outside the statute oof limitations.
 
It used to be something I really admired of the left. Civil Libertarians used to fight against shit like this. Now they applaud it. Sad

Welcome to trump world where the standards have been reduced to the level they are today. I guess I could say one thing I admired about the republicans was fiscal responsibility. Now we have over a trillion dollar debt and we aren't even close to funding this country appropriately.
 
Welcome to trump world where the standards have been reduced to the level they are today. I guess I could say one thing I admired about the republicans was fiscal responsibility. Now we have over a trillion dollar debt and we aren't even close to funding this country appropriately.

Corporate/wealthy tax breaks didn't exactly help the deficit either.
 

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