F'd up move by Israel

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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It's well documented that Turkey and Iran are working together now and the new Islamist government in Turkey is taking a much more anti-Israeli stance. Why do you think they want to break the blockade? So they can ship in uninspected cargo, meaning more weapons, missles and other items disruptive to day-to-day life in Israel.

    Yeah, you're just much better than the rest of us. At least two other posters have taken the same view, but you keep on putting yourself up on a pedestal.
     
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    They didn't. At most, they threatened to.

    But to answer your question - they threatened to run the blockade in hopes of provoking Israel into doing something stupid which would increase world sympathy for their point of view and reduce it for Israel's. Mission accomplished.

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  3. maxiep

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    Sly, that's what they're doing. The blockade is re-routing shipments that are meant to go directly to Gaza and rerouting it through Israel and Egypt so it can be inspected and then sent to Gaza. In fact, this very flotilla was directed to an Israeli port, but they refused. Perhaps before commenting further, you should read a bit more about the background about why the blockade exists in the first place.
     
  4. SlyPokerDog

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    I have read some on this, maybe you should stop being a dick and try to have a rational discussion while treating me with the respect that I'm showing you.
     
  5. maxiep

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    They were directed to an Israeli port and they refused. I'm no expert in blockades, but I know we encountered Soviet ships during the Cuban Missle Crisis before they crossed the blockade line. You're smarter than this silly line of argumentation. The intention was to provoke an incident.
     
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    Unfortunately, your posts don't indicate you've read much at all. We are having a rational discussion, but you seem to be lacking basic information. Stop being so thin-skinned.
     
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    Yes, of course. And Israel was stupid enough to provide them with an incident.

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    I don't think I am being thin-skinned. I felt you were being condescending and insulting while I don't think I've treated you that way at all.
     
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    Re-read your posts.
     
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    If that is really the way you feel I will say that was not my intention and that I am very sorry. I consider you one of my longest and smartest "internet forum friends". You were one of the first to be welcoming when I started posting on the Oregonlive Blazer forum. While I don't always agree with your opinions I've always respected you.
     
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    Yes, a few allies of Israel support the blockade. Most of the world either objects to it or has bigger fish to fry.
     
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    In re-reading my posts, my harshness was unintentional, but was there regardless. I'm the one who was out of line. Let's hug!
     
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    Just wait until he lists the numerous college degrees he has to show you why he is better than you. Then you'll really be put in your place.
     
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    I've never lived in Israel or NYC, but in Oregon L.O. is (or was) as Jewish as it gets. Are you saying there is a certain population density of Jews required in one's neighborhood before one can relate? Or WTF are you saying? In elementary school I had about 7 friends who I was very close to, and 3 of them were Jewish. I probably had many others who I didn't realize were Jewish. All 3 lived on Diamond Head Road if you know where that is.

    How many Jewish friends do you have and what "community" did you live in besides LO? Lots of Jews in Denver I hear.
     
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    I once had sex with a Jewish girl while listening to the Beastie Boys, afterward we ate bagels.

    (Okay the bagel part was a lie)
     
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    I can't hear any high-pitched screeching above 12kHz.

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    Counting Jewish friends? That seems an odd thing to do. All I'm saying is that if you think LO has a lot of Jews, you should travel more. As for where I've lived where there have been more than LO, how about LA (Pacific Palisades), NYC (Lower East Side) and Chicago (Hyde Park) for starters?
     
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