Financial aid to illegal immigrants

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    I was being ironic. hence the: :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Why the shower?

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    Why not the shower? its the greatest place on earth.
     
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    I thought that was Disneyland? You californians confuse me.

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    when I think about it, I don't give a fuck if illegals are here really. I'd rather NOT pay for them through taxes but what are you gonna do. I don't feel sorry for them or whatever, they work hard, fuck it...they'll eventually get better.

    www.fairtax.org
     
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    What a shit stereotype.

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    One study from several years ago says the illegals cost us $10B/yr. Whether the study is conclusive or accurate is a question that is begged.

    In any case, $10B works out to about $1.60/week per person in the workforce. Per capita, it's $.33/week. I think tax on a gallon of gasoline in California might be $1.60...

    Small price to pay for 10M+ workers who work below minimum wage level. You certainly benefit $.33/week for cheaper agricultural products alone.

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    So 2 out of 3 illegals in this country know about these forms, fill them out and file taxes with the IRS? I find that number highly suspect personally. Especially when you consider the non-working women and children. 2 out of 3 of the kids filed income taxes? Laughable.

    Wikipedia has this: In 2006 1.4 million people used ITIN when filing taxes. These numbers LIKELY include other people other than illegal border jumpers. Seems like this bitch is making shit up.
     
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    The illegals want a track record of paying their taxes with the hope they'll get amnesty. Plus they actually might give a damn.

    If you read the article a little more closely, you'll see that she says that many illegals file with someone else's SSN, not just ITINs, and for that they'll never see $.01 of medicare or social security or unemployment insurance, etc.
     
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    WHAT? I mean seriously. How stupid is this writer?
     
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    Do you honestly believe 2 out of 3 illegal immigrants in this country file federal tax returns? Have you ever worked with illegal immigrants? I have, and I highly doubt they file returns on the magnitude which this author fabricates.
     
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    The IRS numbers don't lie. They can see that the name on the tax return doesn't match the name on the SS card.
     
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    Did you (or your employer) withhold taxes on the illegal immigrants? Or did you (or your employer) pay them cash?

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    This just shows how fucked our current taxation system is, if true. If you can just steal these numbers and then these taxes are on the order of $50 billion dollars per year...wow. just wow.
     
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    straight cash yo! Actually maybe they were legal, I don't know. I didn't ask. :NOTMARIS:

    Usually hire them @ $10 an hour to move boxes and files, shred documents, furniture, etc.
     
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    Well, then perhaps the problem is not so much with the illegal alien, but the employer, in this case.

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    From the local San Diego newspaper:
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040415/news_1n15taxes.html

    More than 7.4 million immigrants have been issued the (ITIN) taxpayer numbers since 1996 – more than a million each of the past three years – and "in all likelihood the number of Forms 1040 with ITINs will increase," according to a Treasury Department report released in January.

    Because the taxpayer numbers cannot be used to get a job, many of the tax returns filed with the numbers come attached with W-2 employer forms showing a fake or fraudulent Social Security number.
     
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    I don't have a problem with illegals. I really don't give a shit what they do personally. Like I said, I'm against all government financial aid, not only to illegals.
     
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    The system works!

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