Fire Nate?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Mar 11, 2010.

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Fire Nate?

  1. Fire Nate NOW! Doesn't matter who replaces him

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  2. Fire Nate NOW - replace him with Monty Williams

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  3. Fire Nate NOW - replace him with currently available known coach (specify)

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  4. Let Nate coach out the season then can his ass

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  5. As above, replace with currently available coach

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  6. As above, but only if a currently unavailable coach becomes available (specify)

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  7. As above, but only if the team falls apart down the stretch

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  8. Unsure

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  9. What's all the fuss? Most people think he's in the running for COY

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  10. Make Nate supreme dictator for life

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  1. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I agree with all of this . . . other than konwing what IKPIT means.

    As long as KP brings in the talent and the players keep buying into Nate's shtick, that is a winning formula. Problem is taht with nate's coaching style, if you don't buy into his shtick, he can get pretty annoying. Once players tune out Nate, his coaching value goes way down. And again I agree with Stomp in that KP will be in the best position to determine that.

    My thought is as long as Roy supprots Nate, all is good with Nate. If Nate loses Roy, it won't be long before a coaching change happens.
     
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  2. STOMP

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    in KP I trust

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  3. Mediocre Man

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    Our record this season has nothing to do with whether or not to fire Nate.
     
  4. ironcrotch

    ironcrotch Well-Known Member

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    Why are we firing him again?

    This is as retarded as ROY and LMA not being who "we" thought they were.

    He isn't going anywhere, and if he leaves he's leaving for the Lakers. I hope you can live with that.
     
  5. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

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    Um no I believe he is year to year right now. At the end of last season I believe he signed a 1 year extension and I remember seeing an interview where he explicity said that is all he wanted. Did something change after that?
     
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    IMHO, there are several factors that come into play here.

    First, if the team fires Nate, who replaces him? Nate is far from the best coach on the planet, but he isn't the worst either.

    Second, does Nate still have the locker-room? I have my doubts, but I want to see how the team plays down the stretch. If the team continues to play without heart, focus, and honest effort - the case against Nate grows much stronger.

    Third, the team has to be careful here for PR reasons. If this as perceived as Nate being scapegoated for all the injuries, there will be a backlash by some fans, and it will be harder to attract a first class replacement.
     
  7. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Replace him if a clearly better option is actually available. If not, keep him.

    I don't think the vast majority of NBA head coaches have a significant positive or negative effect on team success (compared to their peers, not compared to a random person off the street). So the big debate over McMillan seems out of proportion to me. The team will win a championship when it has enough healthy talent to do so, so long as they have an NBA coach who isn't a disaster like PJ Carlisimo.

    There are a very few coaches whom I believe would actually make a significant, positive difference (like Phil Jackson or Rick Adelman), but it's unlikely Portland can get such a coach.
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    I am not a fan of Nate's Offense. Sometimes his rotations confuse. I am so done with the word Scrappy.

    That said, I agree that unless the coach has "lost" the team, there is little pressing need to dump Nate. Nate is a good coach. Just not sure he is or will become a great one. Only move him if there is a clear upgrade waiting in the wings who will be lost to another team if we don't move.
     
  9. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Pretty sure you have all that right.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    When was the last time a coach won the NBA championship without one of the 50 greatest players of all time. One team (Detroit) is the only one I can think of. Most of the time the coach has had two of the top 50 players to work with.

    My point.......coaches are important, but still way over rated.
     
  11. RoyToy

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    At most there are only like 5-6 coaches who would be a clear upgrade over Nate, and at no point will they be an option in the future.

    Nate may not be the best coach in the league, but he's no where close to the worse, either. He's fine and the people that want him fired after this year are delusional and would never be happy with any coach when you consider the options.

    Stop crying.
     
  12. Ghost Pepper

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    Sooner or later everyone will figure out that we have better than average talent on this team that can beat all the lower level teams most often. That said, our talent not our coaching is what keeps Nate's job. If we had the Clippers talent or even the Twolves this discussion would be how soon until Nate is fired?

    Confusing talent with coaching is the real mistake here! No better case in point than Marcus Camby, he's always been a good shot blocker and rebounder, Nate has not had any time to coach him up, our team is better when he's on the floor, he brings that not Nate! I'd suggest that every player on our roster the same could be said for. It's clear to anyone who watches a game that we have no defense outside of brand new Camby and Batum and our offense is as much a mystery. It's clear Mr. Sonic's time has come. If the rebuttal will be who's better out there? I'd say half the people on this board could think of better plays than the ones seen nightly! I don't think that's a stretch!
     
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    Sounds like a good topic. I for one would love to hear half the people on this board come up with a "better" play.
     

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