Zombie Fire Olshey

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Quick on radio just said, "Neil is fighting for his job right now."

    Is he legitimately in trouble? "No question. In the end of season press conference, when he was so condescending to fans, the tide turned. He keeps selling the future and hints at future moves, that always keep getting pushed back. I don't see how Paul can justify keeping him unless he greatly improves the roster."
     
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    Firing Olshey could be the biggest move the team makes this summer, please do it.
     
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    It would be frustrating to fire him now, and not right before the draft. Should allow a new GM that opportunity to put his stamp on the draft, not let neil do it, and then fire him. But, whatever. Barring something to push us forward, getting rid of him now works for me.
     
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    I disagree. I think a team really needs to have their GM in place by at least the all-star game so that they have plenty of time to assess the team, scout the draft, and establish a plan for the future.

    The perfect time to fire a GM is in October.
     
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    This guy brings up a good point; if Olshey was gonna let Ed go eventually, why didn't he trade him at the deadline, when we could have at least got a 2nd round pick for him?

    He also suggests that Olshey could have retained Vonleh, got Nicholson's salary off the books in one year, and still stayed under the cap if he had traded Ed for a pick.

    "Hell, if staying under tax last year was goal, could've retained Nicholson, traded Ed for value at deadline, retained Vonleh & STILL under tax.

    Hypothetical: Under tax, Nichol. off books quickly, Ed traded for pick.

    Actual: Under tax, Nichol. on until 2024, Ed leave for nothing."

    He makes another good point in this article: each of Olshey's moves, in isolation, seem to make sense; but in the big picture he is doing a bad job.

    https://www.blazersedge.com/2018/7/...f-igning-seth-curry-trail-blazers-neil-olshey
     
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    He could have also said the same about Napier; the first half of the year was his best; he had some value at the trade deadline.
     
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    I'm struggling to see how this one is possible. We were JUSt under the LT this year. Nicholson has a higher per year salary than Davis, at 6.6 versus 6.3. How are we supposed to trade 6.3 Davis for pure cap space and "value", and retain 3.5 Vonleh, 6.6 Nicholson, and be under the tax, exactly?
     
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    Good question; you better go ask Mr. Griffith.
     
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    asked
     
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    Not sure about Vonleh, but since Nicholson's contract was averaged out over a few years, part of it counted this year. So, yes if we could have traded Ed with nothing coming back, then we could have avoided stretching Nicholson.
     
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    Nicholson was stretched so still counts against the cap.
     
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    We paid Nicholson 2.8 this year. And Ed 6.3. So 9.1 between the 2 of them. Or, Nicholson at 6.6, Vonleh at 3.5, or 10.1. And that assumes a team had pure cap space for Davis and gave us assets. But, I think we were less than a million below the tax, so that extra million paid to Nicholson would push us into the tax. AND, we'd have 2 more seasons of it.
     
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    I don't know if we are agreeing or dis-agreeing now. I am saying maybe he is wrong about Vonleh but we could have avoided stretching Nicholson if we had traded Ed for solely a pick.
     
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    Yeah, for like 2.8.
     
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    Oh yeah, sorry, not disagreeing at all, just talking through it, trying to see his thought process. I dunno why we'd want Nicholson for 2 more seasons going forward at 6.6, really. Versus the 2.8, personally. To retain Vonleh?
     
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    according to our Blazer outsider? lol. Now that's not to say changes won't be made if the team doesn't perform well this next season, but I take anything Quick says with a grain of salt.
     
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    You guys will just demand one more year, like you do every year. Excuses, excuses.
     
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