Zombie Fire Olshey

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  1. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    OK, I just noticed this recent Olshey quote in an article on why Olshey's belief that Collins will develop as quickly as McCollum may not be true:

    So, he is talking about McCollum here and I guess the guy who McCollum would be subordinate to was Matthews:
    “...everybody in the gym knew how good he was, but because we were trying to appease the marketplace and trying to bring in a guy that we thought had a higher level of trust with the coaching staff, we kept a guy (McCollum) subordinate to him for an extra year, where we would have been far better off playing CJ sooner rather than later.”

    Can someone translate the Olshey talk for me? "appease the marketplace"? Does that mean he was afraid if McCollum played more that Matthews would be less likely to re-sign with Portland (this was before the Matthews injury)? And "trying to bring in a guy we thought had a higher level of trust with the coaching staff"? Is he talking about Affalo here; and basically trying to blame the coaching staff for the disastrous trade of Barton and a first round pick for him?
    Look, (intentional) you are the GM, if you and your assistants and scouts knew how good McCollum was and didn't think Affalo was so good; why didn't you make the call? Why does the coach make the call? And if Stotts was wrong about McCollum being ready and wrong about Affalo being the guy, why didn't you fire him? Or quit yourself for being so passive and making bad decisions?

    BTW, the rest of the article is interesting: https://www.blazersedge.com/2018/8/...ccollum-wesley-matthews-ed-davis-blazers-nets
     
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  2. illmatic99

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    What a bullshit quote. I hate Neil.
     
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    Neil “markets fault not mine takes two to tango got a great owner tho (please keep paying me)” Olshey.
     
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    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    Neil is just bifurcating responsibility...and reality, like all douche bags are prone to do.
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    When was the last time he admitted to a major mistake? Honestly, I can't remember. This is as close as he comes. He's a salesman and an actor through and through. That type often find the most success by deflecting.

    Anyway, Portland has made the playoffs 8 of the past 10 seasons. Only a few franchises have consistently done that--Spurs, Miami....are there others? I can't think of any.

    We've actually had a pretty decent run. Maybe not as deep as we'd like, but eh...sometimes 8 handjobs are better than one intercourse.

    Granted, NO was only around for 6 of those seasons, but of those we've been in the playoffs for 5 of them. So he's put out.

    It can always get worse. The 5 seasons prior to this last decade were like my high school years.

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    To me, this quote only makes sense in the context of the Afflalo deal. There wasn't any dispute about CJ being subordinate to Wes in the 2014-15 season. The Blazers decided that they needed more seasoned backup help at SG for the upcoming playoff run and traded TRob and Barton for Affflalo. It was a BAD trade. Playing Afflalo as the starter was a disaster. I guess he's saying that CJ could have been inserted into the starting role? Seems like a stretch to me. He'd been playing behind Crabbe and Barton for most of that season before the Afflalo deal. I'm not sure that anyone would have argued he was ready for the starting nod at that point.
     
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    Yeh, I think I would easily take eight handjobs over one intercourse; there is so much less responsibility! But I'm not carrying that over to basketball.
     
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    He's referencing the Afflalo trade IMO.

    Appease the marketplace means that the team and fans thought they had a deep playoff run in them. There was a lot of pressure to make a "win now" move to take a shot at the playoffs
     
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    At it was a bad trade AT THE TIME. No hindsight needed.
     
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    That phrase in that context seems somewhat condescending.....
     
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    He just admitted a mistake in his exit interview when he said he should have been more aggressive with the TPE and draft picks.
     
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    That's par for the course in dealing with Olshey.
     
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    Where the new hot phrase really belongs.

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    OK--who the hell went and tweeted my pic before I did?!
     
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    It'd be interesting to go back and see who thought it was bad at the time of the trade.
     
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    I’ll be honest enough to admit I thought it was an “ok” trade at the time. I at least understood the thinking behind it. Turns out I was wrong.
     
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    I thought the trade made perfect sense. It was a "swing for the fences" move. And prior to Wes and Arron both getting hurt, it was working out well. After that deal, for the next 5 games, I thought "YES, we finally have a reliable, dependable bench to support one of the best starting lineups in the league". I thought we were a contender. Had Wes' achilles not given out, I still think we would have been.
     
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    Exactly. Forum consensus was pretty much this.

    Seems like folks who poo poo that trade are using hindsight as 20/20. I could be wrong tho.
     

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