Zombie Fire Olshey

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    The thing he's wrong about is that we were only close two or three years ago. We're close right now. If we could move the right pieces, get a team around Dame that works to his strengths and protects his weaknesses, we would be right in the hunt. It takes firing Olshey, Stotts and making moves that suit the new head coach's vision.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Neil is too gun shy to make a big move.

    I honestly think that he doesn’t even have a plan for Trent this summer and is just hoping that a team doesn’t offer him the max. Watch him lose Trent for nothing :banghead2: you know it’s going to happen.
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    That's not really Neil's M.O. but it is the worst possible outcome so I could totally see it happening. I just hope he's fired the day after we get booted from the playoffs. Unless I end up happily wrong and we legitimately contend for a title.
     
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    Big moves are few and far between.

    I honestly think your post is idiotic.
     
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    Both him and stotts are dumb and dumber
     
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    Neil eats, sleeps, and breathes this team and how to win more games. You may not like the moves, but to think there’s no plan or he’s just “hoping” would be wrong. You can’t spend 1 minute around him to know that he cares and is trying to make this team as good as it can be. Again. Don’t like the moves? Fine. But to insinuate he either doesn’t care or doesn’t have a plan is wrong.
     
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    This is correct. Olshey is famous for sleeping at his desk for 3 years like Rip van Winkle. After Paul Allen died, the corpse-like Olshey twitched and actually made some moves. It was as if a billionaire ghost had jostled him.
     
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    I don’t believe any of that.
     
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    At this rate, we could get LeBron James and if we didn't win it all, we'd have Stotts apologists blaming Olshey for not having a backup point guard.

    Give this roster to a coach who actually wants to coach and not be a cheerleader and it would look much better.
     
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    Once Olshey provides us a roster with 2 all-star level players, 1 of which is 6'7" or taller and can play defense, Stotts should only get one year to make it to the finals or get canned.

    Winning a playoff series out West here and there with a roster consisting of only one 6'2" all-star, is pretty much in line with what the last 30 years of NBA playoff results would yield.

    Has there been one or two exceptions in 30 years where a team with one short all-star made a conference finals or NBA finals run? Yes (we're one of them), but they're not the norm. You don't make consistent deep runs in the playoffs with only one short all-star.

    Why do some people here think it is the norm? I have no clue.
     
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    Serious question: Are you around him a lot or something? If so, I have a ton of follow-up questions!

    Or is this based off his one press conference year and one staged interview with Brooke?

    I do agree with you that people here trying to act like they know much a player, GM, or coach cares is somewhat comical.
     
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    I admire your persistence..almost 2 decades later
     
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    That's Olshey's fault too though isn't it? He is responsible for finding a good coach if Stotts isn't one.
     
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    Absolutely. His legacy would have been much better if he had gotten a better coach at any point during his tenure.
     
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    We don't disagree. Where we do disagree is that this team should be doing much better than it has.
     
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    There’s not a GM in pro sports who assembles a team and 2/3rd’s of their best players get hurt and expects to win.
     
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    If this guy is the hardest working GM in the game or at least the most dedicated then he's either terrible if he's trying to win a championship or amazing if he is aiming to constantly build mediocre teams that make the playoffs and do very little else. He's only failed to do that two out of eight times. His first season we didn't make the playoffs and that's understandable and then he must have fucked up in 2019 when things somehow got away from him and we made the conference finals. Oh and even though I think this gets overblown sometimes, it is worth pointing out that we never go out of the playoffs competitively.

    You may be right, he may be dedicated but if you're right or wrong it doesn't matter. His efforts result in treading water right in the middle of the league. The average playoff rounds during Neil's eight season playoff run as GM is 1.4. That is absolute mediocrity. Not bad enough to get championship impacting players in the draft... unless he was the kind of guy that could pull a Giannis, Kawhi or Rudy but he's not and also not good enough to make a serious run at a championship in nine years (please spare me 2019 we got to a conference finals that we didn't belong in and then proved it by being swept). If you want to put any of this on Stotts be my guest (I know I do) but Neil is Terry's boss and could either mandate a change in Terry's staff that would make Terry more successful or fire the guy.

    The bottom line is that no GM that is close to as tenured in the league has been so complacent and mediocre. Almost all of the others have won championships, they've all but one made the championships, they've all changed head coaches or won the championship. None of them have held onto the guys they view as the cornerstones of their franchise without championships like Neil has over the last six seasons. They are all either much better at finding high impact gems in the draft or signing big time free agents.

    The fact that Neil is still around is lunacy. He wasn't even the guy that actually drafted Dame who if you are a rational thinker is obviously the main reason that we've had any of our successes. So what else has he done, held onto a talent that is limited by Dame and also limits Dame, paying the guy close to a max deal. Held onto Stotts who is also complacent. Given out over priced extensions. Not having foresight so he got nothing out of Aldridge's departure. Made the Afflalo deal. The scariest part of Neil still being around is that this off season with the Zach and Gary situations looming is one that takes far more shrewd finesse than Olshey has had in the past.

    Neil shows us through the results and the spin that he puts on them, that he isn't dedicated to excellence... even if he is dedicated.
     
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    The only way (if we have good ownership) that Olshey should be able to save his job is to fire Stotts, make a good hire at head coach right away, no interim stuff and make a drastic change to personnel through a trade or two. Then these moves would have to show that they were for the better which would mean making it to a competitive second round series despite all of the upheaval. That or make it to the Finals. He will not do either.
     
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