Fire Stotts Eventually

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Dec 20, 2016.

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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

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  2. Top 10

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  3. Top 20

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  4. Needs to go!

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  5. He's the very best!

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  6. Lets hope he continues to improve.

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Not meaning Dame, as he says he wants to retire here, but for some players 9 years is a long time with one organization. I would say however, that it would be rejuvenating with new ownership.
     
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    I'm on board with this if it can produce meaningful change on the roster front, which is what truly matters. Even trading Ant for Aaron Gordon probably doesn't tip the scales, we need to go bigger than that. Big ask I know, but that's what history says it will take.

    I do challenge the theory of "this isn't working so anything different is better." I think you have to be calculated in your changes and I think my original list shows that some of these franchises may have made a move to just make it and are still paying dearly. NONE of them have won a title since, in 119 attempts.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Start with new ownership, I do think there will be a buyer in the offseason. Just a gut feeling.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Which of the following current coaches with rings would you want for this team now?
    Pop
    Kerr
    Spoelstra
    Carlisle
    Lue
    Nurse
    Doc

    Id prob go with Spoelstra...I do like Nurse too?
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Kerr, Spoelstra, Carlisle and Nurse for sure. Pop, too, probably, though I'm concerned that he might be exiting his "brilliant coach" phase and entering his "stubborn back-in-my-day" phase. But I'd still take the risk if there were some way for Portland to get him.
     
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    If we could get Spo that would be amazing. I mean a Portland kid with that much experience would be phenomenal. I'd take Ty Lue next. Then Nurse. I'd want someone who would still be looking to carve out their legacy instead of someone who felt they'd already done that.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I wonder how many of those guys never won a single conference finals game? I know that Sloan made the finals twice.
     
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    Most playoff games won in a single season:

    Sloan - 13 (twice)
    Nelson - 8
    MacLeod - 10
    Saunders - 10
    Moe - 8
    Stotts - 8
     
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    Pop easy.
     
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    I dont know, you get him, CJ, Melo all spillin wine? might be fun though....
     
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    Flip didn't even make it to the conference finals until that ninth season but they won two games in that WCF and when the next season started rocky they fired him. I had been saying that it was unprecedented that Stotts didn't have any conference finals wins in his first eight seasons with one team but I was wrong. It's him and Flip.

    I guess the question is, does the Trail Blazers franchise want to be grouped in with the T Wolves? The other guys had conference finals wins, Sloan was the only one who hadn't made it to the finals by the end of his eighth season and it's just a small and dubious list to be on. It's not Terry's fault that he's still here it's the organization's job to assess his faults and realize that he's not getting us further and likely is holding us back.

    I don't think coaches win championships but they should be a real net positive for the team. It's unacceptable for a coach to be neutral or a net negative. Stotts has spent most of his time here as a neutral in my estimation but has been a net negative for a while now. He makes excuses in the place of accountability, he does not adjust and now he seems disengaged. I don't see him as an innovator or a motivator and those are the things it takes to be a coach that affects championship team's in a positive way. For those that think that Stotts is a motivator because he keeps his players somewhat happy, I would say that he is a cheerful stagnator. He makes guys feel good with where they are at. Sure he asks them to work hard but it's always followed up by "we'll get em next time" instead of building up or holding accountable.
     
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    Yeah with Stotts that was a series of drawn out series followed by a no show in the conference finals. It does go to show you that when you fail to efficiently navigate the playoffs, you're not going to win the whole thing.
     
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    I've always found the "no-show" take in the conference finals to be strange. I believe they led the series in game control, but ultimately couldn't close them out. Not being able to close out is an issue, but they weren't beat down in any game outside of Game 1, and even that was tied early in the 4th I believe.

    Not to mention that Golden St was the more talented team.
     
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    I think Rick won 13 playoff games in one season.
     
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    Stotts' biggest supporter, Chad Doing, has officially boarded the Fire Stotts train. The seat is cookin' for Terry...

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    pop if he committed to coach for a few more years at least

    Spo
    Nurse

    No thanks to the others. None of them are what I would be looking for.
     
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    Cant wait until Stotts is gone.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Wanna know why they didnt win games? Because they barely had any reps running other defensive schemes other than drop scheme. We switched away from drop in Games 2, 3, & 4 and were much more competitive, but had we ran something else during the regular season, we likely wouldve had the details down to be able to win 1 or 2 of those games.
     
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    Do you think it will happen this year? It feels like he's gonna stay for 100 years
     
  20. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Why didn't you speak up sooner?

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