Fire Stotts

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by dviss1, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. ABM

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    You're joking, right?
     
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    I don't think anyone here would dispute the Blazers watch film on most games. Unless someone on the board is allowed to go to those video sessions, there is no way of knowing what is said in them. Any organization would be dumb to communicate these things with the public and tip off their opponents.

    Measuring a coaches ability to hold players accountable is very subjective and I'm doubtful many people could find a metric that could support if Stotts is or is not holding players accountable. Maybe techinical fouls? Even that I wouldn't buy. The best argument most people make is "the eye-ball test" which again can be used to support either side of the debate, so throw that out.
     
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    There has been numerous games where Stotts benched Nurk in a 4th quarter or was seen chewing out Meyers or Nurk during a timeout. So your theory about him doing it behind closed doors isn't accurate.

    The truth is that Dame and CJ aren't held to that same standard. Now the question is do they deserve special treatment? From Stotts point of view it was certainly smart to keep those two happy. I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing. You can also make the case that his options have been limited for production if he does say bench CJ in a 4th quarter. That means it's possible to argue that he shouldn't hold them accountable but that's a different argument than if he does.

    Coaches like Phil and Pop always held their stars accountable.
     
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    Crickets....

    Go back and look at the date of the post the you're responding to...
     
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    Got it. Thibs is the answer. The End.
     
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    I would have if I wasn't responding to someone commenting about how bad Portland's offense was. I thought I was try to address the posters point directly instead of diverting to another point after the data disproved their theory.
     
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    This is a very odd response. You'd think because Stotts has not played at starter down the stretch or got on a 10th man is proof that he does hold players acccountable (which is what the poster I was replying to said), but isn't proof that he would come out and make public comments about what a specific player did poorly in reviewing film. A great way to lose you team is to pull a Mike Leech and throw your guys under the bus to the media.

    You should read Phil Jackson's book and see if he described holding players accountable by ripping them in the media or having discussions behind close doors and finding them liteature that might help get his message across. Regardless, asking a coach to try to be like another coach in how they communicate with their players probably isn't the answer.

    We all could point to examples of something good or bad happening and say that it's a sign of Stotts accountability or lack of accountability, but all we'd be doing is trying to fit outcomes to match our narrative. Instead, someone should come up with criteria in advance that would prove or disprove if he holds people accountable and see what the outcome is. I doubt anyone will do that though because they'll realize that it's almost impossible to do.
     
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    I refuse to watch any more games until Stotts or Oshay has been fired.
     
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    Ok. So after Nassir was good on Siakam, but Stotts refused to give him 4q - as a standard NBA coach procedure - now he put him on Harden?
    I'm confused.
     
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    We have no defense
     
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    I just watched the Dallas vs Houston game and wow, Rick Carlisle is a great coach, they send double teams at harden whenever he crossed the half court line and he had no choice but to pass the ball, Rockets had no idea what to do, same like us. And on offense the ball was moving pretty well, they found an open shooter multiple times. I'm so fucking jealous
     
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    You know that Thibs demanded a very specific type of personality, locker room culture, and talent set from his players?

    he’s not just gonna show up and turn Dame, CJ, Anthony and Hood into elite defenders.
     
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    Okay, I see, good answer.
     
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    Maybe someone should start a “Super Luka to Portland Thread (Now w/Extra Fiber)”? It eventually worked for Melo.
     
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    Since the front office won't fire Terry after signing an extension this past summer the only way to get out of his contract and let Olshey off the hook is to trade him for a 2nd round pick. What team would be willing to do that?

    Knicks if they fire Fizdale?

    Bulls? Their coach said Stotts was a top-3 coach, lol.
     
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    This is actually a great idea. I'm sure plenty of teams would make this trade.
     
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    We won in spite of stotts. Every win hes gotten has been in spite of him.


    Dame is a hell of a head coach, by the way.
     
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