FIRST TRADE IDEA OF THE NEW SEASON!

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Oct 5, 2022.

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Would you trade Anfernee and Sharpe and x picks for Shai Gilgeous Alexander?

  1. Yes, for any x<3

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  2. Yes if x=1 and is protected

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  3. Yes for Simons and Sharpe with NO picks (or maybe a second or two)

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  4. No

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  1. BankTeller

    BankTeller Well-Known Member

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    Who are stars you would consider trading Nurk + Ant + salaries + 1sts for that has any real possibility of being available? Mine are:

    Bam if Heat rebuild
    Embiid if he asks out
    PG if Clips lose all hope on the PG/Kawhi pairing
    KD if/when he asks out

    The list pretty much stops there for me. I don’t think Brown, Siakam will be available. Any guard wouldn’t make sense.
     
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  2. SIeepwalker

    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    PG for Ant + Nurk + fillers + 1sts ? Fuck no.
     
  3. WesleyMatthews

    WesleyMatthews Well-Known Member

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    Hell no to Simmons. Maybe if we could've used Bledose salary to match in the summer and we weren't hard capped. But now Simmons isn't worth the contracts alone of who we'd have to give up. He looks like a totally broken player. I somewhat questioned how legit all the mental health leave from Philly was, but either he did have major issues that are unresolved and possibly never will be resolved; or it became a self fulfilling prophecy. I'd sign him for the vet minimum or a portion of the MLE. But he's nowhere close to worth that huge max contract which requires sending out a lot of assets in a trade.

    Lean no on a Durant deal. With his salary well above even Simmons it would have to be for 2-3 starters and a bunch of picks/youth. We'd lose our youth, depth, defensive energy, and future assets. Just not worth it for a 34 year old on the decline who would have questions if he'd be unhappy again on the 4th team that Dame leads. The market for KD won't be low enough to be a bargain on his value as there will be teams willing to fork over good assets. Maybe there was a path to do this in the summer, similar to Simmons, with Bledsoe salary and where we could've replaced outgoing starters. Now it's just not feasible during the season in a way where we could contend.

    I'm not against exploring trade ideas though; I'd say Ant and or Nurk could be considered when available to trade January 15th. Ant is underutilized sharing a similar role with Dame and his offense isn't as critical with the production from Dame/Grant/Sharpe/bench. Nurk is overpaid, and not as mobile as would be ideal defensively, blows many easy looks inside, and has injury concerns. Maybe the Blazers keep both Ant and Nurk though, I'm fine exploring ideas for upgrades or fine standing pat and evaluating more in the offseason. There won't be hard cap restrictions to navigate in the offseason as well as potential to add more role players.
     
  4. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Sometimes this fanbase....
     
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    BassPlaya Funkasectomy!

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    Count me in as a fan who wants players ......that want to be here. I'll take that any day over whoring out for a Title. JMO......
     
  6. WesleyMatthews

    WesleyMatthews Well-Known Member

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    I don't see the first three have any realistic chance of being available. Nets I could see exploring KD trades. There is a few problems though with Portland, first Nurk and Simons aren't enough salary. So it would have to include GP2 or Hart. Lets say Blazer could do GP2 as well as picks.

    Dame - Keon
    Hart - Sharpe
    Grant - Little
    Durant - Watford
    Eubanks - Winslow

    Yes Claxton might be available; but then the Blazers have to throw in both Hart and GP2. Along with Simons losing 3 guards leaves the Blazers crazy thin in the backcourt so that probably doesn't make sense. Portland could probably get a few buy out centers to assist Eubanks or flip a second round pick(s) for one instead of Claxton.

    How many picks would the Nets insist on? Probably a boat load. Blazers could trade up to three swaps and 3 picks. So unprotected swaps in 2024 2026 2028 and unprotected picks in 2025*, 2027*, 2029.

    Actually typing this out the possibility seems more realistic than I expected. So maybe there is a small chance the teams could explore something such as this. I kind of hate the idea of losing a 23 year old Simons as well as future picks that could become high in the lottery as Dame/Durant age. But the Dame/Grant/Durant core along with keeping Sharpe is very enticing; no team is adding Durant without giving up some assets of real value.
     
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    WesleyMatthews Well-Known Member

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    Actually this also aligns exactly with Durants history;

    Leaves OKC and joins up with a team that already has the best record in the NBA history in GS
    Leaves GS and pushes Harden to demand trade to Brooklyn so his team has the Vegas projected best record in the NBA.
    Demands trade to team that already has the best record in the NBA (Phoenix)
    Demands trade with second acceptable team already having the best record in the East (Miami)
    Gets traded to the Blazers when they already have the best record in the West?
     
  8. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Objection!

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    I thought SGA was good, but not THIS good... He's also really picked up his defense, and he gets 2.6 steals per 48, and 1.9 blocks per 48. Guess my trade idea is moot, as there's no way OKC trades him now (unless Presti is desperate for a real shot at Wembanyama)...
     
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    Problem is if the Blazers don't keep up with the best record in the west, Durant probably won't want to come here. Based on his history; he likely only will want to go to the team with the best record in the conference or ideally the entire NBA.

    If the Blazers have the best record in the west or NBA do they really want to do a trade to shake up the starting lineup and mortgage away the future?
     
  10. theprunetang

    theprunetang Bow down before Simons; basketball Jesus.

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    He certainly looks like the real deal. I'm a fan. I want to see what are own Canadian wunderkind becomes here though.
     
  11. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Nope, we must give up everything for the current shiny object in front of us!
     
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    Rastapopoulos Objection!

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    Pretty fucking shiny
     
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    Rastapopoulos Objection!

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    But the Clippers are still happy with the Paul George trade, right?

     
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    Are you still putting Grant is this deal?
     
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    No
     
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    Crazy how much can change in exactly 14 days.
     
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    I think it's really good that with all of the talk on here about trading Ant and/or Nurk that we have until mid January before they can even be traded. By that time we should have a really good idea of where the team is at then and probably what trajectory the team is on. Regardless of how good the team is doing as a whole it will also give Cronin enough time to see if certain pieces that have trade value are holding us back from being even better
     
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    The best thing about the team being at the top of the standings? All the "Trade Dame" threads are at the bottom of the forum.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    You don't even hear about it at all nationally.
     
  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus All in, baby Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10056313-1-new-trade-idea-for-every-nba-team.amp.html

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: C Isaiah Stewart, SG Rodney McGruder

    Detroit Pistons Receive: SG Keon Johnson, F Justise Winslow, 2024 second-round pick (more favorable between Charlotte Hornets and Minnesota Timberwolves)


    For now, Stewart has held off rookie Jalen Duren for the Pistons' starting center job. Should Duren overtake him at some point, however, the Blazers should make a call about Stewart's availability.

    FInding a defensive-minded center behind Jusuf Nurkić would be a huge addition to Portland's rotation, especially someone who can step out and be a floor-spacer on offense like Stewart.

    If Detroit hands the keys to Duren, getting back a pair of young players and a second-round pick for Stewart is nice compensation.
    Thoughts?
     

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