I believe Fisher will be beneficial to us in the upcoming season, so I say give him another season, as the young players contracts on our team end in 2 or more seasons.
In this day and age no one is "untradeable" anymore, there is always an Isiah or Mark Cuban to take someone off our hands, I mean Jamison has been traded twice with that ridiculous contract. So when Fish doesn't fit into our plans anymore, we will be able to unload him.
Jamison was traded for 5th pick and Stackhouse, so he was nowhere near called 'untradable'. I mean, nobody is indeed untradable. But, it really means nothing if we receive another crap with long term in return or cost a lot to dump him. It took us Jamison and Welsch to dump Fortson's 6 mils/ 3 years remaining contract, and it took Olando unconditional first rounder (Marion) to trade Outlaw's contract. Since Fisher can play and with Houston rule, his contract can be traded/waived one way or the other eventually. But, it's the matter of price we need to pay and whether we can get rid of them at the right time...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I believe Fisher will be beneficial to us in the upcoming season, so I say give him another season, as the young players contracts on our team end in 2 or more seasons.</div> If Dunleavy is in fact extended, somebody has to LEAVE. We've already discussed the figures and W's are very close to the luxury cap. At this point, we can only guess who would be traded but somebody would go. As far as Fisher goes I agree he's a good player to have but with Davis and the high tempo offense Mully envisioned from day one, I scratch my head why they thought of Fisher to be a good fit.
Fisher is more of an insurance, in case Davis goes out. If Davis does get injured, I'd rather have Fisher running the point than any other player on the roster. And god I hope Dunleavy signs a deal where he gets ~5 a year, any more and I'll go nuts. NUTS!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Fisher is more of an insurance, in case Davis goes out. If Davis does get injured, I'd rather have Fisher running the point than any other player on the roster. And god I hope Dunleavy signs a deal where he gets ~5 a year, any more and I'll go nuts. NUTS!</div> Be prepared to go nuts. During the preseason game, they said Dunleavy is going to get between $9M-$10M, and they are trying to get the extension done before Oct. 31st.
Shape, i don't think cleveland and 76ers need any more backup point guards. Knicks however, Antonio Davis for the Fish?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Be prepared to go nuts. During the preseason game, they said Dunleavy is going to get between $9M-$10M, and they are trying to get the extension done before Oct. 31st.</div> Yeah, there was that insane rumor going on, and that almost made my heart to stop. I am looking at the calender, hoping that there is little bit of sanity left in Mullin to not to agree on this extension...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Fisher is more of an insurance, in case Davis goes out. If Davis does get injured, I'd rather have Fisher running the point than any other player on the roster. And god I hope Dunleavy signs a deal where he gets ~5 a year, any more and I'll go nuts. NUTS!</div> How about 1 year, 5 million?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">How about 1 year, 5 million? </div> I'd prefer 5 year, 1 million
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd prefer 5 year, 1 million </div> Oh man I love Dunleavy, it's just he's too much of role player to really command anything huge.
Custodian, he's a number 3 pick, solid player, and Foyle just got 8mil, I don't see his agent asking for anything less!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mylie10:</div><div class="quote_post">Custodian, he's a number 3 pick, solid player, and Foyle just got 8mil, I don't see his agent asking for anything less!</div> Yo, I was only kidding. Of course Dunleavy is worth 6-8 mil a year on paper. I mean this guy is supposed to make his dough during the prime years of his career or he'd have no living. Then again we were more desperate at the time for big men than we are for small forwards that fundamentally have the tools to make other players better, but don't necessarily really drive the team the way people like to envision. I mean this guy is no Larry Bird. You can just tell. We can wait and see, but it's become very obvious to me that he's a utility role player all the way, not a star.
I dont know if Dunleavy is worth $6-8m per year. At that price I might just be willing to let him walk. I mean, its not like we are going to win an NBA championship with Dunleavy as our starting SF...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont know if Dunleavy is worth $6-8m per year. At that price I might just be willing to let him walk. I mean, its not like we are going to win an NBA championship with Dunleavy as our starting SF...</div> I agree. "Making others better" for about 3 possesions per game while getting lit up on defense and not scoring much isnt worth 6-8 mils. His rebounding and scoring is very easy to replace at the 3 and if we replace Fisher with a legit PG we dont lose ball handling or ball movement either. To me, Dunleavy is a poor man's Jim Jackson of today, Dun cant shoot, finish, or play defense as well as JJ but both can handle well enough to play a couple of minutes at PG. Hell, J-Rich gets more assists than Dunleavy so why dont we say he "makes others better"? Dunleavy really isnt worth much to me and I believe he isnt worth much to all but one GM in the league. I say let him walk if he demands 7-8 mils, I can live with 6 and would be happy with 5 or less (though thats not likely). The 2/3 positions are pretty easy to get production from these days, we dont need a 6'10 defensive liability who can really only shoot and pass (neither of which he is exceptional at).
If Dunleavy gets signed for 8-9 mil a year, I'm gonna have to flat out call Mullin a dumb arse. If Dunleavy gets an extension that BIG, whats the point of extending it now? If we resign him at the end of the 05-06 season, the market in no way will command more than 8-9 mil out of Dunleavy. Mullin would be shooting himself in the foot by extending Dunleavy right now. Options ARE: 1. Sign Dunleavy to 8-9 mil extension this month 2. Wait till end of season to determine his market value, which in no possible way will be above 8-9 mil. By going with option #2, we can get Dunleavy for cheaper or decide to let him go. GOD I hope Mullin realizes this. It's like he's thinking that we can keep Dunleavy for cheaper if we extend his contract now, I mean, that is one of the reasons to extend a players contract before it ends right? BUT AT 8-9 MILS it defeats the PURPOSE. I'm going f*cking CRAZYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree. "Making others better" for about 3 possesions per game while getting lit up on defense and not scoring much isnt worth 6-8 mils. Dunleavy really isnt worth much to me and I believe he isnt worth much to all but one GM in the league. I say let him walk if he demands 7-8 mils, I can live with 6 and would be happy with 5 or less (though thats not likely). The </div> My sentiments exactly. He may make one or two unbelieveable passes in a game, but then you wont see it again for 5 games. That is just not worth it to me. People make him out to be like Lebron James in the sense of making plays to set up his team mates; it just does not happen that way. I think $5m would be fair, $6m tops, but for only 4 years. But once again, that is if this offseason he gets that kind of contract OFFERED to him. I dont see anyone but Mullin offering him that kind of money. I mean its not like everybody is looking forward to Dunleavy hitting the free agent market. He will be one of those guys who will still be waiting for a call a month after he was eligible. I say $3-4m per year should be sufficient.
If we are to build around Jrich and Baron, we need to find players that feed off their combined play for the right price. That's the bottom line. We need continuity, but we need flexibilty as well in case the locked up guy doesn't do crap.
