(Flashback) BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

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  1. Minstrel

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I would be all for that, but that "banger" would have to be fairly productive, not just a large, hustling scrub. Both Blake and Outlaw are productive players.

    If New Orleans still wants to dump Chandler, that might be a target, since Blake and Outlaw expire at the end of the year and give them a couple of useful players in the meantime (Blake would be a nice backup for Paul, Outlaw one more weapon for Paul to make look good).
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    congrats on helping mr. miller build his retirement plan because the only basketball he's going to be playing at the end of his contract is in an assisted living facility.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    Get a sharpshooting veteran three who plays defense and can hit the wide open 3. Unless Batum is ready. A backup PF/C is also needed.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    wtf? ARe you freaking kidding me? You are seriously proposing a trade for Battier after all the grief you gave me for my idea? And you want Houston to take an unprove tweener and a proven black hole.
     
    Idog1976, Jul 24, 2009
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    Miller only had 53 3-pt attempts last year (higher than it has been recently), which would have put him in 7th on this team. Take that away, and here is how he compares to Portland's guards from within the arc, as well as some FT stats:

    Roy .501 2FG, .824 FT, 505 FTA, .174 FTA/Min
    Miller .483 2FG, .826 FT, 409 FTA, .137 FTA/Min
    Fernandez .470 2FG, .839 FT, 143 FTA, .072 FTA/Min
    Blake .429 2FG, .840 FT, 75 FTA, .034 FTA/Min
    Rodriguez .428 2FG, .792 FT, 77 FTA, .063 FTA/Min
    Bayless .383 2FG, .806 FT, 103 FTA, .157 FTA/Min

    We're talking about a player that can get to the line with a little less frequency than Brandon Roy and Jerryd Bayless. Yes, his offensive skills are more limited when he can't shoot it from behind the arc, but he can get his points, and he can make plays.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I didn't include Rudy and Joel. You insist on that.

    My idea shows what I think Battier is worth.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I endorse Tyson Chandler based on his facial hair alone.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I couldn't really find a banger that was in the salary-range that a Blake/Outlaw would bring back. At least nothing that seemed realistic.

    Seems like, in order to get a banger to replace Outlaw, we'd need to either deal a combo of Out and Bay, Blake and Bay, or just one of either Out, Blake, or Bay.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I was thinking along the same lines, other than my idea included Webster instead of the TE. A while back, in the trade/transactions forum of another 'site, I recall a lot of Houston fans being open to a Webster for Landry deal. That said, Outlaw, Webster, and Bayless for Battier and Landry would be an solid, solid trade for us, in my opinion. Not sure if Houston would do it, but I would think they'd be open to a Battier for Outlaw/Bayless trade... and, if the thoughts of their fans reflect those of management, even remotely, maybe they'd be willing to swap Landry for Webster, too.

    Fill-out the rest of the roster with guys like Dante Cunningham, Jeff Pendergraph, Ime Udoka, Pooh Jeter, and Bobby Jones.

    Miller / Blake / Jeter
    Roy / Fernandez / Udoka
    Oden / Przybilla / Pendergraph
    Battier / Batum / Jones
    Aldridge / Landry / Cunningham

    :ghoti:
     
    GoBlazersGo, Jul 24, 2009
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    No, I insist on giving value for value. Whereas you insist on bending Morey over a table.

    Here's a fair trade:

    Joel + Rudy + Outlaw for Battier + Landry and filler.

    That's a trade that might actually happen because Houston gets some love. That's what annoys me about everyone who hated on that trade. I never see them come up with anything reasonable. RR7,CTC, Minstrel and others at least came up with good reasons not to do it (Houston needs youth) and plausible trades in response.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I like that idea. I still feel like Houston and most teams won't trade value unless we include value (Joel, Batum, Rudy and maybe some still like Bayless) out of those I'm inclined to trade Joel and either Rudy or Bayless but not both. Obviously we can throw in Outlaw and Blake because they are just that, throw ins.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    That's the fundamental difference here. JB + TO for Battier + Landry is fair, in my mind.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller


    Are you out of your fucking mind? I get the feeling you think Battier is an all-star or something, or you're just trying waaay too hard to appear unbiased.

    Just please, STOP.
     
    Erroneous Subterfuge, Jul 24, 2009
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    Before the offseason, I thought Miller would be Portland's prime target. Miller could be our Chauncey Billups.

    The fact that it's a short deal is also great, for obvious reasons, in that we don't commit a lot of money to an older player, we get a chance to see how this works.

    Now we wanted Hedo to get another guy that could run the offense, make plays for his team-mates, and relieve Brandon Roy....Miller is that guy, and he can also help us push the tempo and get easier buckets....not to mention, he's a much more efficient scorer than Hedo.

    I was surprised that they didn't seem too interested in him, and figured the Blazer scouts must have seem some deficiencies that I didn't...but look at his numbers...he obviously still has gas left in the tank.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    wonder what # he'll wear
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    Roy is all-nba and his mid-range and close-in game make coaches go weak at the knees.

    And yet, your numbers show that Miller is not a huge drop-off offensively in those areas. What the numbers don't show, is that Roy does his thing as a 1st option, and Miller not - so in reality they are mile apart in ability. But since we aren't changing those roles, we should get similar results in production.

    Blake is a poor 2pt shooter and doesn't draw fouls - at all. Really poor. His high FT% is thus meaningless. Can't run the fast break. Can't create for other players. Ok ball handler who is careful with the ball. Great 3pt shooter. A decent, but limited player.

    If Miller can play as well as he did the last couple of seasons, it will really help our team.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    probably back to #24 ?
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    1 year would be great, he would be a salary chip at the trade deadline
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    Hope you're right bro. We'll see...
     
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