Alright let's not start another 9/11 hoax thread, we have a topic for this in the debate section.Also, the current administration's foreign policy is absurd, who the hell agrees with that sh*t?
9/11 changed everyone's lives, whether you had someone you knew who died in the towers or not. 9/11 triggered this huge chain of actions that will change the world forever. The United States 10 years ago was a totally different place than it is now - I can't possibly go through all of the affects 9/11 has had on the world - but the most obvious is the war. This war has cost the United States so much money, that we will have to eventually pay back; and guess what, your parents won't be paying it - you will, we're the generation taht will have to pay for this garbage. Once this thing is overwith, which wont be for a very long time, we will pay for this multi-trillion dollar war. There's one way 9/11 affected you.and how about the minor things like the routine of traveling to other countries - that has obviously changed. - The Patriot Act I and II - Both are acts that were established because of 9/11 and to 'protect' the united states from internal terrorist activity. The Patriot Act if you do not know is basically a short way of saying - we are taking away some of your most intimate rights. For example, your converstations, whether it be on cell phone, home phone, any phone can be tapped. Your emails, your messaging, can all be accessed if deemed necessary. Credit card companies will be forced to release information about you if necessary - they will even check your dammn library card to see what books/movies you've been checking out - your privacy has been stripped. That's obviously affected everyone.Now if you want me to continue, just let me know - but those are just 2 things that prove 9/11 affects everyone - not only the victims families.
You're right, it effects how high the tax is on my flights now, other than that I don't give a sh*t. Call me ignorant or whatever the F*ck you want, that's just how I feel. I don't give a sh*t about this country because of the people who run it, and this particular event didn't effect me like it did some other people, so I don't care about it.If I had personally lost a loved one in the attack then I would have very strong feelings about the day, but I was fortunate enough not to and as a result it's pretty unimportant to me.
So you could care less about all the people that died?Get out of this country. I never heard such disrespect.
I care a lot more about the millions that have died in Congo over the past 7 years who are completely ignored and forgotten by the world then a few thousand Americans who died in terrorist attacks.Who the F*ck cares if the people who died were Americans or not? I don't care about Americans, there's pletny of worse events going on daily, but people in this country don't give a F*ck because they weren't born here, so I in turn choose not make such a big deal when Americans die.
No, I just choose not to make a big deal about it. I feel that there have been much worse abominations to humanity that have occured over the past decade or so then 9/11, so I'm not going to treat the people who died in those attacks as martyrs and pay no attention to others who have died under much worse circumstances.
I explained that.I do care about them, but to me every person that has died as a result of evil should be treated and remembered equally, and if you disregard their nationality and the circumstances in which they were killed, they're less more important than a black women in Africa who was brutally raped and murdered by a militia to me.
You are right about people dying every day, and how Americans are treated like Kings and Queens compared to the rest of the world, but a life lost is a life that should be grieved - wehter you're American or not. I'm sure if more people knew about the tragedies happening in countries like Africa - such as the genocide that happened last year, than a lot more people would be doing more about it. It's cool taht you can put in perspective that the Amrican casualty of 2,000+ lives lost compared to the 10's of thousands people who die in other countries, but its not like you can just forget about it.You said that you care about the people in the congo dying - those people don't affect you one bit, but you don't carea bout Americans dying in your own country? - who by the way affect you immensly - tell me how that maks any sense...Although I really don't believe what you're saying right now about not caring about 9/11 - but if you really dont care, you need to take a step back and be alittle more sensitive to life. Because, if god forbid, one of your close family members died in an accident, you will want someone by yourside, and you will appreciate other people's condolences and sympathy. You just don't see that now becasue you haven't experienced it - and I am spekaing from expereince.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You said that you care about the people in the congo dying - those people don't affect you one bit, but you don't carea bout Americans dying in your own country? - who by the way affect you immensly - tell me how that maks any sense...</div> :rock:
Because I choose to stand up for those people then to exalt Americans who have died, as they recieve enough attention as is.
lol ok. Good logic there. I think? I agree, we shouldn't treat Americans who have died like saints and martyrs, just like we shouldn't with anyone else (mostly); but you still have to be a little sympathetic for a the families of those individuals who passed away. You can not simply say you don't care for the citizens of your own country just because they weren't a direct part of your family. That is just morally wrong - and it doesn't really help you achieve your purpose. It can't make any logical sense to say that you only care for the people of the Congo because they don't get attention. I see, and understand the message that you're trying to portray, but you are trying too hard, and you are going in the wrong direction by saying you don't care for the Americans that died - it simply doesn't work. I am sure that deep down, you really do care for the people that died, you probably just can't see it yet.
What if Jessica Alba would of been on one of those flights?? i think you'd be acting different and thats a shame.
lol that's true.I'm not trying to make it seem as though those lives which were lost aren't important, I just feel that they got too much attention which wasn't deserved, when far more atrocious acts of murder are commited daily, which recieve no media attention.
^ ok well thats not what you were saying earlier.and yes I agree with you on that - americans do get too much attention - its like 1 american = 5,000 other person to get the same attention.
I agree.A life is a life, and I'm sick of Americans being treated like they're so much more important than the rest of the world, so I support 3rd world countries in this area when I can. Of course when anyone dies it's tragic, but when you compare 9/11 to the things that go on in places like Sudan and Congo, it's pretty ridiculous how the media covers things. I'm sure the African child who was forced to watch his mother get raped and killed (in some cases even rape his own mother) feels just as bad as the American kid who's Dad died when the WTC went down.
ok - again, I agree with you; but waht I am saying is that - caring for a life based on geography only or how it gets publicized by the media is not a way to go by. If you take back wat you said earlier about totally not caring for anyone's ife who died in the 9/11 crashes, than you've redeemed yoursef - but as of now, you are just illogical to me.
I'm just saying that I feel as though those people have been immortalized by the media, and I don't think that's right.I'm just sick of hearing about how heroic these people are and all that crap, thousands of people die in much worse ways every day, so why don't they get any attention? Maybe I didn't word it right when I said I don't care about them, it's more like I'm tired of hearing about them and all the attention they get, when other people who's lives were equally important are neglected.
