Politics Florida's Plan to Replace Migrant Workers With Children Falls Apart

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  1. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Super screwed up story, but have you seen Three Identical Strangers?



    The boys were adopted. One to upper class, one to white collar middle class and one to blue collar. The boy from the blue collar family that had his dad around most seemed happiest. It was an experiment by an adoption agency. Super fucked up.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    One of the worst things I've seen from parents is when they do everything for their kids. You gotta let your kids learn and make mistakes. I was kinda neglected a bit as a kid but I learned how to survive and take care of things myself.

    I'm always there to help my kids (and my wife stays at home for now) but I try to teach instead of just do for them.
     
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    Yes, we watching that. You could almost get past how fucked up it was when it got super fun. Then it got even more fucked up.
     
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    All of you who have posted and shared in this thread, I've come to appreciate and respect over the years. Your youth work stories, your origin stories, are fun to read. But let's not miss, IMO, the real story here.

    Illegal immigrants are an exploitable workforce. The ONLY job they're coming to this country and "taking" from an American is drug dealer. The rest are being hired or employed by people who don't want to pay wages and benefits high enough to attract legal workers. An illegal gets hurt on the job, who do they complain to? Their wages are stolen or illegally withheld; who do they complain to? If an illegal starts to complain, you can just call ICE on them.

    Now, this is starting to hurt the employers who exploit these people. So what do we do? We find a new, dumb, naive, easily exploitable workforce, and that's our children. This isn't about teaching kids a work ethic; this is about people and businesses whose business model is based on exploitation.

    Since 2021, 12 states have reduced or rolled back their child labor laws.

    Of these 12 states, 5 have raised their minimum wages but... not for workers under 18.
     
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    I bet those 12 states are all red states
     
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    Again, I'm all for immigration. If someone is hear illegally, if they are doing criminal shit, deport them. If someone is here on a legal visa, going through the proper channels, trying to do the right thing...deporting them makes no sense.

    Immigrants are the backbone of our economy. They take the jobs no one else wants. Working in the fields, in factories, etc.

    Removing them if they are here legally is just going to hurt our country.
     
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    There is a one to two trillion dollar surplus in our economy that we can't account for (maybe even more now because when I found out about this it was around a decade ago). I believe I heard it on the freakinomics podcast.

    One popular thought from many economists was that this surplus was the impossible to track impact of illegal immigration. Not the full impact of illegal immigration (because you can kind of track some of that). This would just be the stuff that you can't track.
     
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    I know we've touched on it here somewhere before, but republicans are all for trickle down economics, so what we need in these instances are trickle down law enforcement. Why are we going after the people coming here trying to work hard? There's people that are clearly paying them, illegally, and benefitting from skirting labor laws. So why is that going unchecked? A chunk of that is likely farm labor where maybe those people are already sucking on the government teet. Maybe it's a big fuck you, figure out how to grow stuff and make a profit without a handout and illegal labor. OR, if that can't be done, and it needs govt. subsidies and cheap labor, maybe just maybe capitalism isn't the best method for essential things?
     
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    This forum in regards to any topic.

     
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    What the fuck does this mean
     
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    Mostly just meaning the squirrel! Part. We get distracted and off topic easily.
     
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    Exactly this. The punishment for companies who hire illegal immigrants at lower wages should be severe. They should almost be put out of business.
     
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    100% this. We're so mind fucked in to a work culture that we have to now force kids in to jobs, so they can have money so they can buy shit, lather rinse repeat. Can't they enjoy freedom for a small amount of time before our shit society chews them up and makes them in to cogs? My kid was looking in to getting a job this year after freshman year, and while I was ok with his interviewing and what not, I didn't want him to. He's also talked about graduating early, which he easily could. But for what? To join the work force? We're all gonna do that until we're 65 at least. Let kids be kids. Shit, let some adults be kids as well, please! And again, if capitalism can't survive that way, then let's change the system. Because now it's hell bent on getting all of us to buy in to that mindset, work from when you're 12, 13, 15, etc. year old, good work ethic, so you can work for the man, and then you get to live for the weekends and enjoy 2 days a week, maybe, and then die. that is fucking miserable. Fuck kids working. Let them be kids. Sorry, wall of rant over.
     

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