For anyone thinking Israel is showing restraint and only targeting Hamas

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    That was a great scene!
     
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    [video]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=605944852857873[/video]

    Israel military shoots down two young boys all while lying about it.
     
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    I see 2 teens falling down, which rubber bullets will do to a person. There is no way to tell from the video that there were live rounds used.

    More Hamas propaganda. That bullet would have mushroomed. There are no photos of the bodies, and we are yet again relying on the words of Hamas, as if they should be believed.

    Hell, I'm not even sure the teens were hit by anything, considering the way it looked like the "rescue" was choreographed with a dozen people running out in front of what I'm supposed to believe is live fire.

    Idiotic. LOL
     
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    You divert. Rubber bullets or not, you didn't address why Israel murdered the first boy, then instead of calling it a day on murdering boys on that street, repeated the action an hour later.
     
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    LOL You think this is false story? Those kids weren't shot dead by Israeli soldiers despite the video showing just that? Remember, Israel is the one that said their 3 teenagers were kidnapped and murdered by Hamas only to now say, no, sorry, it wasn't Hamas.

    I'm with the U.S. State Department, Israel's actions are disgraceful. Good for the U.S. to finally stand up and say something.
     
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    They're defending themselves! Don't they have that right? Apparently they need defending from women, children and non-combatant males.
     
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    Hamas straps children into suicide vests. I don't trust Israel completely, but I have literally zero trust for Hamas. It's the same propaganda time after time. This time they didn't even bother to show the bodies, since I'm quite sure their own followers are wondering why in the hell they're sacrificing children for a stupid religious cause.
     
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    Reading all the arguments going on...he always takes the same side as American foreign policy. Note that Facebook, an American company, hasn't banned him.
     
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    I saw two teens fall down, and then a bunch of people run up to them. Then I saw a backpack with what was purported to be blood, and a bullet that had no mushrooming, yet apparently went right though a 16 year-old boy. Plus, the exit hole on the backpack should show threads heading outward if the untarnished bullet was traveling at full speed.

    I don't believe this at all. Not sure what else to tell you. There is no way you can say that the CNN report is proof of anything regarding live rounds being used. Again, there is no way 12 people would run out not once, but twice, after they suspected live rounds being fired.

    This is a joke, right?
     
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    Update from this reporter, who seems to have changed his tune a bit. :)

    [video=youtube;NMiG9JD2OxM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiG9JD2OxM[/video]
     
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    Apparently, "civilian shields" is a major selling point in this thread, as exemplified by the 2 videos above this post, so it's time to say the obvious.

    It's true that Gaza shells come from its urban area. This is because all Gaza is urban. The reporter says that Gaza's only farmland has been created as a buffer zone to Israel. From where does Israel fire its shells onto civilians? I'd guess from Israeli cliffs overlooking Gaza. Israel has the luxury of wide open spaces for specialized military bases, but Gaza doesn't. The video shows that guerrilla fighters set up a tripod and tube, fired, and scatted out of there, leaving the tripod and tube, before Israeli informers and snipers only meters away reacted.

    area (sq mi)...population density...population...place
    139...13,069...1.8 million...Gaza
    145...4375...0.6 million...City of Portland
    6684...345...2.3 million...metropolitan Portland

    Metropolitan Portland contains everyone in these counties: Clackamas, Columbia, Multnomah, Washington, and Yamhill in Oregon, and Washington's Clark and Skamania.

    Because the areas of Gaza and Portland city are so similar, we can say the following 2 statements.

    Of the 1.7M (2.3-0.6) metro Portlanders not living within city limits, if you stuffed 1.2M (1.8-0.6) of them inside city limits, you'd have Gaza.

    Simpler: If you tripled Portland's population, you'd have Gaza.

    Gazans are pressed together like rats, controlled by Israeli informers and snipers meters away. There is no countryside, so they fire from within the urban area. So much for "human shields."
     
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    Not so "all Gaza is urban."
     
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    Why bother? Do you really think this poster is serious? He knows better than to forward the Hillary Clinton argument.
     
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    The area of the Gaza Strip (dark green on your map, 20 by 6 miles) is the same as one city, Portland (139 vs. 145 square miles; numbers are from Wikipedia).

    So superimpose a map of Portland, but with triple the population (1.8M vs. 0.6M). On top of Portland's neighborhoods of extreme population density, superimpose triple that density. On Portland's less populated stretches (what you call nonurban areas) between those high-density neighborhoods, superimpose the same intermediate urban blocks as Portland, but with triple the density. What you call Gaza's nonurban areas must be few, tiny, and well-populated.
     
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    They could avoid making targets of civilians by firing their rockets from the non-blue areas.

    Duh.

    They want civilians targeted.

    Duh.
     
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    Google Maps as satellite photos of the area if you ladies would like to settle this argument.
     
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    I could fire a lot of missiles from Forest Park and never put any civilians in danger. Hillary Clinton's excuse for launching rockets from UN centers shows she's never been to that area, let alone the poster here who used Portland as a reference. Wake up, people.
     

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