For anyone thinking Israel is showing restraint and only targeting Hamas

Mosab Hassan Yousef the son of the founder of Hamas call it like it is.

“Their goal is to conquer the globe and build an Islamic state on every inch of the globe,” (Hamas) is willing to sacrifice as many Palestinian lives as it takes."


http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/hamas-founders-son-mosab-hassan-yousef

 

Naw! It seems right to me for the Jews to be in the City of David and Salomon, in the land known as Israel and Judah.

 

God gave the Jews their land and they are back to take it. God also told them they are able to steal water, restrict the flow of food and vital medications into the territory to bleed out the Palestinian population. Don't believe me? It says so in their book!

Hamas is the Great American Red Herring. And the Israeli one too. I thought Hamas kidnapped and killed three teenagers. Oh, not so? Well... let's change our reasoning behind the war.

 

So, in your plan do the Palestinians pay Israel for the trillions of dollars of infrastructure they will leave behind?

Go Blazers

 

The Palestinians had better hope it was Hamas that kidnapped those children. If they weren't, then the Palestinians are fucked.

Israel is the only side whose leadership cares about limiting children and civilian casualties. To the Palestinians, those are benefits because the only war they're fighting is one of public opinion. If they can ramp up bloody and dead innocents, to them it's a win.

 

I don't know what to make out of this situation, but innocent civilians dying (on either side) is very sad to me. i don't know how anyone can think these civilians deserve to die.

 

Powerful stuff.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/chris-gunness-breaks-down_n_5634920.html

[video]http://youtu.be/iFd8jVrbf0A[/video]

 

Funny, the Palestinians in the West Bank don't lob rockets,what do they get for their good behavior? More Jewish settlements.

 

"UN," lol...

 

Agreed. Of course, the difference is that Israel is trying to protect civilians while Hamas is trying to put them in harm's way for propaganda.

The mistake is applying moral equivalence to this conflict.

 

Yeah! The horror of having Jews live on your land! And Palestinians are all outlawed from Israel!...oh, wait...they have the same rights as Israeli citizens.

Bottom line, Palestinians on the Israeli side of the border are treated better than Israelis on the Palestinian side of the border.

And if the good people in the West Bank want their own country, just acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist.

 

Sucks that the UN gave tacit approval to their schools and hospitals being used as weapon stores and rocket sites.

 

Uh oh. The far left is beginning to drop their support for the Palestinians...

http://yglesias.blogspot.com/2002_03_31_archive.html#11339052

When you've lost Matt Yglesias, you've lost...err...something

 

And when are all of us non-Natitve Americans going to leave America? In retrospect, it would have been better to choose a different location in 1948, but that's ancient history now. The Palestinians were not kicked out, most left to not mix with the Jews. And still 20% of the people in Israel are of Arab decent, over 1.6 million. After the 6 day war when Israel was attacked on all sides by Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq, but ended up fighting them off and even annexing territory to assure more future security, they offered the Palestinians within full Israel citizenship, but most refused since they wouldn't recognize Israel.

Asking Israel to leave now is like asking Americans to leave now. So the solution better be a damned bit better than that.

 

It's more fundamental than that. Israel is the Jewish homeland. It's the Palestinians who play the role of non-native Americans in your example. The Jews are the natives.

 

I know, but I just trying to keep it from being a circular argument.

 

U.S condemns Israel's aggression

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-women-children-asleep-UN-school-refuge.html

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-scarborough-israel-indiscriminate-killing

 

That's dated 12 years ago.

 

What's funny is it remains just as true today.

 

Just in case you were wondering about the motivations of each side, there was a 72 hour humanitarian cease fire negotiated between the two sides, which lasted two hours.

Gee, which side could have violated it? It's a mystery.

Hamas wants conflict. It wants Palestinian casualties.

At this point, the best possible move would be for Fatah to formally declare Hamas an enemy of the Palestinian people and request that the UN and the IDF help to root them out of Gaza.