For or Against Abortion?

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  1. M Two One

    M Two One Halló Veröld!

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    I have a simple opinion of this subject that many tend to agree with being quite fair. If a female is raped by a man and she becomes pregnant then she should be able to have an abortion as soon as possible, but not too late in the fetal growth. If she has sex and becomes pregnant because she didn't bother using protection then that’s really her own fault and the guy’s. It really depends on the age too. Too young is just too much for their lives to handle. That's both individuals’ own faults for not being smart enough to use condoms or the pill. Of course these are not always guaranteed to prevent pregnancy but you're having sex by your own choice. The original aspect of sexual intercourse is to mate, and although we've evolved beyond that we must remember that it is the original purpose of the act.

    When it comes down to it it's really none of my business what they do with their bodies and while I have an opinion of it all I wouldn't vote against or along with anything involving the issue.
     
  2. I-Miss-MJ

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    I'm for it all the way, though killing a potential human is terrible, so is bringing them up in an environment where the child is not wanted, where it could be neglected, abused, abandoned or even killed.
     
  3. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">why should her child also have to pay the price?</div>
    thats the woman's fault..
     
  4. TheFreshPrince

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    ^^i dont want to get into this because i dont like abortions but i really think that it is the womans choice
     
  5. Courtking

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    Pro-choice for me...
     
  6. Run BJM

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I believe in pro-life, but if some women feel strongly about terminating the pregnancy, then they should have the right to take care of it early with the help of professionals with medical degrees. We don't want no desperation coathangers or drano being used to take care of the problem in the third trimester of pregnancy.

    I'm a man. As a man, I don't even know if I have the right to stand in the way of something that women go through practically alone. Child labor is a big deal especially if it's an unwed teenager mother or a rape victim or a woman whose health is at risk or some couple that can't afford to get pregnant because both parents need to work. A woman going through any one of those scenarios needs a lot of support, but often feels shame or is shamed by others who judge other people's actions so rigidly. I feel like women need to decide on the issue amongst themselves and pro-lifers/pro-choicers need to place themselves in each other shoes.</div>
    Totally agree. Making it illegal won't stop it, girls will still have abortions to hide their pregnancy form their parents or to avoid the effect it would have on their life but the illegal abortions will be much more dangerous. And I also agree that it should be decided by women. As men we have no idea what its like to carry and really raise a child, especially when the man you had it with most likely won't be around to help raise it. It's the women's fault for getting pregnant but its not her fault that the other person responsible for the child won't be around to raise it while the women's life (whether it be school or work) is lost for at least a few years.
     
  7. Vintage

    Vintage Defeating Communism...

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">I say against.. Because if a womans chooses to be pregnant..She should think abuot the after-effects..on how she is going to raise her kid.. think before doing something..or otherwise pay the price.</div>

    ..because women choose to be raped, too?

    Or do they just do something to deserve it?
     
  8. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">..because women choose to be raped, too?

    Or do they just do something to deserve it?</div>

    Thats a different case. I was mainly talking about teens who want to get pregnant. They shouldn't have to go through abortion. They should think about thinking how she is going to raise her child before doing it.
    When your talking about rape. I think the mother definetly should go through abortion because she didnt want to have a child at first place and was forced to have one. In the case, she should have to go through abortion. But when she isn't being forced..She shouldn't have to go through abortion because she should've thought about this before doing it.
     
  9. AznxBaller

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats a different case. I was mainly talking about teens who want to get pregnant. They shouldn't have to go through abortion. They should think about thinking how she is going to raise her child before doing it.</div>
    Well obviously a person wanting to get pregnant wouldn't get an abortion...

    Pro-choice for me.
     
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    I am not for it...nor against it. I don't really care. If thats what you want to do then do it, not my business.

    I mean if a woman gets raped, what then? What if a child isn't expected? Or what if the woman/man just flat out don't want a child? Is the child going to have to live in an environment where he wasn't wanted?

    Don't give me this "give him up for adoption" thing. If anything in all the world. I am against adoption. Its like going to the pound and picking up a puppy. It isn't humane in a way to me. Also who is to say when the child gets adopted? Why does said child have to live his/her life without his mother or dad from anywhere to 3-10 to whatever years. That aint right. Kids shouldn't grow up throughout their infant years w/o a father or mother figure.

    Also what about those people who can't afford a kid? Should a baby be brought into poverty? Should the baby be hungry because they have no money to feed it or clothe it?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">thats the woman's fault..</div>

    Oh don't give me its the womans fault if a baby is born and they have to take care of it. If they really don't want a child then they should have a choice to not get one if everything is already "set in place".
     
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    i dont feel like rading through all the posts. i read some on the 1st page, i like what thrilla said "Abortion will either be legal or illegal. If you feel as though its necessary in certain situations, then it has to stay legal."

    I have to say though that i am for it. I am for it because either way you look at it, its the same thing. If a 15 year old gets pregnent and can't feed the kid and the kid dies isnt it the same thing as killing it while its still in the mother? And also everyone talks about how every kid should live and tehres other alternatives, such as adoption. Theres only so many adoption centers with so much space would you really want to over crowd them until the point that kids don't have proper care and will suffer anyways, and the kid will always have the thought that why didn't my parents want me. And im sure if you had a daughter who got pregnent at 13-18 with no education and had the chance to get an abortion and was willing all parents would want the abortion no matter what they say during issues.
     
  12. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Oh don't give me its the womans fault if a baby is born and they have to take care of it. If they really don't want a child then they should have a choice to not get one if everything is already "set in place".</div>

    Well what im saying throughout all my posts is that.. If someone chooses to be pregnant they should want to take care of their child and raise it. Its a point where you have to make the decision. When you choose to have the child..you should raise it and not go through abortion because imo its wrong to bring a child to the world then have it go trough abortion after making the decision to have the child and raise it.. when ur raped..u dont want the child..then you go through abortion.. i dont really care about abortion.. its the decision of the women..when your raped..then you go through abortion because you didnt want the child..but when you choose to have the child..then its wrong to go through abortion imo..Thats all.
     
  13. Chutney

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    Not everyone who has sex is choosing to be pregnant. Nobody who actually chooses to be pregnant (by that I mean, they are planning to have a baby) has an abortion. There's too much generalizing in these debates.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    You guys know what?? I really dont care about abortion.. It is the woman's choice..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If a 15 year old gets pregnent and can't feed the kid and the kid dies isnt it the same thing as killing it while its still in the mother?</div>

    No its actually way different.
     
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    why is it diffent both ways they suffer and die
     
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    The fetus doesn't suffer. In fact, it isn't even fully formed yet if it is legally aborted.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">

    The mother should always have the choice to decide.</div>
    Thank god someone isn't a young Republican like their parents who haven't made up their own minds yet [​IMG]


    I probably wouldn't ever get my child aborted, but the choice for abortions should definitely be there.

    Okay, pro-abortion people (you aren't pro-life, you're pro-abortion) let me ask you this. We can admit that even if abortion is made illegal, abortions will never really end, right? They'll just be basically home remedies for abortion. Coathangers, bleach, hell, people believe anything they hear. Shouldn't women have the ability to get a SAFE abortion performed by a medical doctor if they so choose? What gives you the right to stop them from doing this?


    Also, abortion is not comparable to murder... Because... fetuses... are... not... alive... You're trivializing murder when you say that they're the same thing.
     
  19. NTC

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    I wouldnt say I'm for Abortion, but I think it should be the mothers choice. If she doesnt want to have the baby, then she should have the ability to choose wether she wants to have it or not.
     
  20. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldnt say I'm for Abortion, but I think it should be the mothers choice. If she doesnt want to have the baby, then she should have the ability to choose wether she wants to have it or not.</div>
    Yea i agree on that..
     

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