For Those Of You Who INSIST This Has Not And Will Not Happen...

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  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Do you do anything but shit on people?
     
  2. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I also correct people when they're wrong. That happens a lot.
     
  3. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Ok. You are correct, I do not know who will run for offices in the future. The Republican party may change their stance on Legalizing marriage between same sex couples. The Republican party may change their stance on supplying an increase in support for the poor, instead of cutting it like the Republicans in Congress have proposed. The Republican party may change their stance on immigration reform and allow illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. I may change my mind and vote for them. But I think it's less likely that you being a kind hearted human being.
     
  4. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    look who the fuck is talking...I dare you to reread your posts today, and then call someone out...
     
  5. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I dare you to prove to me that Allah doesn't exist.
     
  6. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    thanks for making this easy
     
  7. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Come on. Even the Republican Party, in general, is not that rigid.
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I voted for Obama the first time because I thought he was a constitutional scholar and might actually roll back some of the over-reaching abuses of his predecessor (the Patriot Act etc.) and instead he doubled down on those anti-democratic and corrupt policies. Everything else in the face of that is pretty much a side-show to me.
     
  9. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    that is the truth..plyable to the point of being spineless..I have zero respect for the GOP at this time
     
  10. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Let me try rephrasing my point, without being so agitated. If a party was pro-choice, pro marriage for same sex couples, pro immigration reform, and wanted to cut taxes across the board but could show or somehow guarantee it would improve the economy for all, I would listen and consider voting. As far as I am concerned though, when the GOP married the religious right, and the democrats divorced the religious conservatives, I became stuck in a voting rut. Too many social issues will steer my vote.
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  12. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Sure, I'd consider it, but I think there are a lot of variations of the party which I dislike.
     
  13. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Press Release
    For Immediate Release
    Friday, May 17, 2013

    Libertarian Party: Don't waste time investigating IRS, abolish it NOW along with income tax
    Return to 1992 spending level would allow balanced budget, end to income tax

    The presidential administrations of Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, and, now, Barack Obama have all been caught using the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to target political enemies.

    As long as we have the IRS — and the income tax — we should expect more presidents to use their power to silence and intimidate free voices. No IRS investigation or firing of a few scapegoats will change that.

    "We must abolish the IRS and end any need for a regulatory agency that snoops into people's private lives," said Libertarian Party Executive Director Carla Howell. "We must draw back total federal spending to the level of 1992, which is more than enough to fulfill the government's constitutional duties to protect our life, liberty, and property. This will allow us to balance the budget immediately, end the federal income tax completely, and give back an average of more than $12,000 to every family in America."

    "We don't need an income tax, and we certainly don't need the IRS," Howell said.

    The Libertarian Party is the only political party in America calling for both dismantling the IRS altogether and dramatically and immediately downsizing Big Government.

    "The Libertarian Party is running candidates to dramatically downsize the federal government," Howell said. "We can cut federal spending by 50 percent, or even 90 percent, and Americans will be better for it. We can end the personal income tax, the corporate income tax, the death tax, and all federal payroll taxes. There will be no need for the IRS, nor any substitute agency."

    "Ending the income tax, abolishing the IRS, and cutting federal spending to the level of 1992 means no more deficit spending," Howell said. "This will stop inflation and stabilize prices. Even more importantly, it will transfer wealth out of the wasteful, dysfunctional and destructive government sector and into the productive private sector, resulting in a bounty of new jobs and prosperity for Americans."

    "We will make living in America and doing business in America much better," Howell said. "Individuals, businesses, and political organizations will all be safe from government interrogation and free to express their political views. It will dramatically increase the wealth of the private sector and inspire hundreds of billions of dollars in investment in small businesses and American jobs."

    Another benefit of abolishing the IRS is that it would become far more difficult to fund massive interventionist military presence and warfare around the globe.

    "It will also require our massive military budgets to go down, which currently encourage overseas meddling and war," Howell said. "We get rid of the IRS, we get rid of the income tax, we dramatically downsize federal spending and taxation, and America and the world will be better for it."



    So how will we fund the government?
     
  14. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Tax the states.

    You don't need an IRS to do that.

    The states can collect the money however they want. Like toll bridges, or whatever.
     
  15. DaLincolnJones

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    I love this idea, but it will never happen..
     
  16. blazerboy30

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    Sales tax.
     
  17. DaLincolnJones

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    again too simple, never happen..

    big government is an industry unto itself
     
  18. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately you're right. The government has incentive to complicate things and grow their power. Complicated tax codes allow for politicians to hide taxes to fun their pet projects.

    Obamacare is a perfect example. This bill inserted so many changes to the tax code that are increasing my taxes paid, but don't show up as an increase in the stated marginal tax rate table.
     
  19. oldguy

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    I got my Moda enrollment package today. The payroll deduct for the $500 deductible (employer subsidized) plan went from $80 last year to $258 this year. The $1000 deductible plan went from $20 to $100 (500%).

    Go Blazers
     
  20. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

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    Untrue.
     

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