For those of you who value analytics, Anfernee Simons is having one of the worst seasons of all time

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  1. oldmangrouch

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    Fair enough. Fans do tend to over-hype their team's young players. I remember how over-the-top some fans were about Rudy Fernandez's rookie season. In this case, I do feel Olshey poured fuel on the fire.
     
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    Try this approach. Wait and see for yourself as Olshey's job is also to sell this team to the fans. All I ever see is many of you guys calling Olshey a used car salesman and then listen to him and then complain about what he says if it doesn't materilalize. I prefer to use my own judgement rather than the word of a person who's job is to sell (hype) the team to the fans. If you take everything anyone from the Blazers (or any team for that matter) literally you will likely be disappointed.
     
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    Jarryd Bayless is the one I always think of.
     
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    Neil has not learned from the past..

     
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    A search for only Americans finds

    Brandon Jennings
    Terrance Ferguson
    Isaiah Hartenstein
    Jeremy Tyler
    Latavious Williams
    Darius Bazley
    Anfernee Simons

    I didn't check for non-Americans who played in American high schools, like Satnam Singh and Thon Maker. And of course, there were 150 non-American, non-college draftees whose high schools were in their own countries.

    So 3 is wrong.
     
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    I think the implication was players who came directly from high school to being drafted in the NBA. Jennings, Ferguson, Hartenstein, Tyler, and Williams all played professionally overseas, so that would exclude them. Bazley didn't actually attend a high school he year before he was drafted; he simply didn't play anywhere at all and only trained for the draft.
     
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    Brandon Jennings, Terrance Ferguson, and Jeremy Tyler went overseas. Latavious Williams went through the G-League. And do you seriously think that Isaiah Hartenstein is American?
     
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    He was born in Eugene Oregon and didn't live in Germany until 10 years later.
     
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    I had no idea
     
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    And I was born in Germany. I'm not German.
     
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    Were you born on German soil, or on an American military base? Were either of your parents German? Do you have German citizenship? How long did you live in Germany?

    Exactly how analogous is your situation to Hartenstein's?
     
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    Seth >>> Simons

     
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    No doubt about it. Simons is a liability this season. He MIGHT materialize later in his career but at the moment, he hurts the team more often than not. Just facts. He might be better off playing the 2 with either Dame or CJ playing the point.
     
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    Wish he was still a Blazer
     
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    Me too, always thought Seth was underrated. Simons has the green light to shot whenever he has the ball because he's an Olshey guy, meanwhile Seth was shooting something like 44% from 3 but had to beg to get some shots
     
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    Yeah, he's has been awful. I had high hopes for him but it's getting difficult. Interestingly Nurk's PIPM in 2019 was highest on the team, just above Dame. Chief's 2019 PIPM was 29th in the NBA and his multi-year is 44th in the NBA. Most underrated Blazer ever.

    Dame, CJ, Nurk, Collins, Trent, Whiteside. Then it's a cliff. We need 3 more decent players to be good.
     
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    Seth was an Olshey guy. He signed him!
     
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    You’re underrating Melo if you think he’s not decent.
     
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    An inefficient guy who doesnt pass much and plays little defense? Meh.
     
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    So you don't think he is out performing his 2 mil a year salary? Hard to find a vet with his experience and production for 2 mil a year.

    I'd say he has proven to be a bargain signing.
     
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