For those of you who value analytics, Anfernee Simons is having one of the worst seasons of all time

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  1. calvin natt

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    Feel bad for Simons - he is being asked to play Point Guard in the NBA, and he is not an NBA Point Guard. Its a hard job. He is a two guard, plain and simple. He's a small one, but thats his only place on a basketball court. Last night felt like watching your kid getting killed by bigger and better kids on a court and just praying the coach takes him out. I was not for one second 'mad' or frustrated with Simons, he's being put in a position to fail. Let that kid (KID) run around with Damian and shoot some threes and run the break next to DJJ, and he'd be fine.
     
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    Quickly and Maxey are showing they don’t need 3 years to produce when given the opportunity.
     
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    The worst player in the NBA who plays at least 5 minutes per.

    The.

    Worst.
     
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    It's sad how unproductive the most talented player Neil has ever drafted has become.
     
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    4 PPG

    6.2 PER

    Advanced BPM/DBPM/Etc: Negatives across the board. Every. Single. Category.


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    Not quite the worst. Rodney Hood has a PER of 1.1 shooting 20% from the field.
     
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    Great....so we have 2 of the worst in the NBA. :cleanup:
     
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    Glad to see someone else finally come around to my way of thinking about Sly.

    There's a song in The Rocky Horror Picture Show that describes Sly to a 'T':
     
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    I swear people hate Ant cuz of Neil's comments more than anything he does on the court.

    I dunno what it will take to get Simons going. Maybe a consistent forcefeeding of 15-20 mpg will help him. We need him to develop, need our coaching staff dedicating more focus towards him.

    Everything I've read about his work ethic is great. Needs to put it together
     
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    I don't think people hate Ant at all and certainly not because of Neil's comments. Mostly, they seem to be teasing Neil because of his ridiculous comments. It's unfortunate he said them about Ant, but no one hates Ant for some misquided idiocy Olshey stated.
     
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    He's been really bad but no point in totally giving up on him now. Ya never know.
     
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    I mean CJ was pretty fucking awful before Wes' injury. In the first half of his second year, he averaged 5 pts a game, with a rebound and an assist in 12 mpg on 52% TS.
     
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    is our savior. We need to trade half our team to get him.
     
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    I know you said you were willing to die on the Ant hill. You should realize it's looking like you're already bleeding out. Maybe call for a medic

    we don't need to try and make some logic-defying comparison to CJ. What we need to do is find a comparison to a player approximately the same age, who has had approximately the same opportunity. Maybe somebody like Gary Trent (I won't add Jr. because of Jordan Kent)

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    the only real edges Ant had was in FT rate and assist rate. He was notably worse than Trent last year, and he's regressed a ton from last year to this year

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    now, I suppose, here is where the excuses about Duke vs Image Academy come in. Or that Simons is 6 months younger and a "project"

    I mean...he's shooting 30% on FG's and he's averaging an assist every 20 minutes

    there's still plenty of time to turn things around this season, but he sure didn't look ready to turn anything around last night
     
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    I'm not seeing it. You guys must be looking at the stats upside-down. Try this: Put your legs up the back of your chair, and your head down where your feet were. Not only is this good comfortable exercise, but also you will learn to love Stotts System victims.
     
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    Check out this video of his workout with Darren Collison this offseason: play from 12 mins or so and hear his comments on how Ant should play with Dame/CJ

     
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    I'm not gonna compare stats for a guy playing sporadic minutes, every other game. That's a fool's errand, especially when we want to turn Ant into a fulltime PG for some reason instead of play his natural position. I only brought up CJ because he was similarly un-impactful when he was behind Wes. Neil traded away a pick to get a guy in Afflalo to ply AHEAD of CJ because of how awful McCollum was at the time. And there were plenty of threads here about how we need to give up on CJ and he would never be an NBA player-- I was part of that.

    I'm not saying Ant will rise like CJ if given the shot to play more, but it's our most recent experience of a guy becoming something out of nothing.
     
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    There is excuses of course, but he HAS to show something even in 8-10 minutes. He consistently shows nothing. I see rookies getting in there for few minutes and having an impact yet Simons looks completely lost in year 3. He doesn't even bring some energy. You don't think he looks clueless everytime he touches the court?
     
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    ya it's not been encouraging. up to him to put in the extra work, cause it's a waste of talent.He's got such a sweet jumpshot and can jump out of the gym. It's all meaningless if those skills don't manifest in a game.
     
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