For those who wanna tank...

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    People seem to think of him as Jason Kidd with a shot. I see the Jason Kidd comparisons (although can he defend like Kidd?) but he has a very funky-looking shot. We're talking Joakim Noah here.
     
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    I don't believe in intentionally tanking but do see us as a lottery team unless there's a huge leap around the corner..this is actually a really bad season to get a low seed in the playoffs...the top of the west is brutal against us
     
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    We still got 50 games left.

    Just fyi .

    If we're gonna tank, I want my money back for league pass.

    And I'm sure PA would feel the same way about the 100 mil he's shelled out for this season.
     
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    Our best players are 4 year college players so they're going to be older than many up and coming players around the league that were drafted younger....the Wolves and Lakers are really young for the most part...
     
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    5-45!

    (Just wanted to get that in before @HCP does.)
     
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    couple 20 game win streaks and we'll be right on target for my 54 prediction.....after we sign Lebron we won't lose many more
     
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    No need to intentionally tank. With Lillard and McCollum, the team has a couple of prime pieces and isn't necessarily a full rebuild away from contention. Instead of looking at what we saw in the second half last year as a complete mirage, look at it as a glimpse of what this team could be with a few more good defenders (who aren't totally useless on offense). That was a good team, in the second half.

    As things are going this year, the team is already likely to get a top-ten pick and it could get close to the top-five. The team shouldn't feel forced to limit deals only to "makes this team better immediately" or to "improves the team's future." The team can hunt the best deal possible (ideally for McCollum, in my opinion, but widening the deal-making to guys like Plumlee, Vonleh, Davis would be fine) and reconfigure its window based on what they get back. Lillard is still young enough to grow with a pre-prime stud but experienced enough to lead a reloaded veteran team.
     
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    To the original question: Personally, I think the potential of a high lotto pick is far more valuable than a first-round trouncing. I don't have to follow NCAA to have this opinion. A high draft pick is a valuable asset - especially for a team like the Blazers who can't meaningfully improve through Free Agency. Losing in the first round no longer holds any value to this team.

    With that said, I'm not in favor of tanking. I would like to fire Tater Totts and trade away any combo (or all) of Aminu, Davis, Meyers, Crabbe, Turner, Vonleh, and Plumlee. I am in favor of trading CJ but we must win that trade by a landslide - so not straight-up for DMC or any other such bullshit.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    CJ for cousins would be a win for the Blazers.
     
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    That's extremely unlikely. If that's the requirement, we'll be waiting a long time, probably forever.

    I want a fair value trade, simply moving McCollum's value into that of a similarly-talented player that isn't a defensively-challenged guard.
     
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    They say you don't trade big for small. Who's the sucker that would?
     
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    Dame rolled his ankle just in time to ensure the tank continues. Lillard seeing the big picture. :breakdance:
     
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    I was thinking about that today...Lillard is sitting...CJ picks up the scoring load....then Blake Griffin is out until mid January...will the real showtime please stand up? There are some interesting storylines going into the deadline
     
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    Interesting article on Portland
    NERLENS SCENARIO 2
    Noel + F Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot for F Ed Davis, G Shabazz Napier

    The Blazers desperately need interior defense -- as we speak, they are DFL in the league in Defensive Rating, allowing a ghastly 115.8 points per 100 possessions, and are 28th in points allowed per game (112.8). This is no longer the feel-good story of last season; Portland has to fix this, and fast. Napier is getting next to no burn playing behind Damian Lillard; Evan Turner's on the ball, anyway, when he comes in the game. Davis is a rugged guy and works hard, but he's not capable of fixing Portland's awful defense by himself; in Philly, he’d be an upgrade off the bench. So why not see if Noel can come into the Rose City and give them some defensive presence in the paint? Napier would get point guard minutes in Philly behind Rodriguez, and Davis is a first-rate energy provider off the bench. Luwawu-Cabarrot, one of Philly's first-round picks this year, can get with the Blazers' terrific coaching staff and develop slowly
     
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    So with Dame out, Napier needs to light it up to increase his trade value.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Timothe has some serious hops!
     
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