Four Meetings

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by e_blazer, Feb 5, 2025.

  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,619
    Likes Received:
    16,763
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Careful there most people don't call marijuana dope these days unless it's really good and then they might say it's really dope. When I hear someone say that someone else smokes dope, I think they're saying that the person free bases heroin. Dope over the years has evolved to mean much harder drugs than marijuana.
     
    BoBoBREWSKI likes this.
  2. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    4,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NW
    facts
     
  3. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,515
    Likes Received:
    16,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Anything harder than sugar or caffeine is dope as far as I'm concerned. Lol
     
    PtldPlatypus likes this.
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Well, Sharpe got moved to the bench and Simons did not. So did he talk to him? Maybe. But Simons still sucks at defense and Simons is still starting :dunno:
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    That means that if the deadline passes, and Simons is still here, he better be getting moved to the bench until his defense improves.
     
  6. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,650
    Likes Received:
    15,093
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yet they have looked better with the current starting lineup. Playing great D with Simons starting.
    Do I think he is a great defender? No, but to my eye, he has improved quite a bit in the last year.
     
    e_blazer and BoBoBREWSKI like this.
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Orrrrrrrrrrr he's out there with four really good defenders and we're covering for his warts, but Scoot is a better defender, better shooter right now, and just better overall.
     
    cheesehoff and BIG Q like this.
  8. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,690
    Likes Received:
    36,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    last season he was 3.5 worse than the team in defensive rating; this season he's 4.1 points worse

    last season, he had a DBPM 1.9 points worse than the team; this season he's 1.4 points worse than the team

    so a mixed bag of simple gauges, but he's still worse than any rotation Blazer. And he's been the worst since he assumed the starting role in the 2021-22 season
     
  9. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    15,006
    Likes Received:
    14,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    I think he might be moved to the injury list, DNP: Tanking
     
  10. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,650
    Likes Received:
    15,093
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Look I love how Scoot is playing and I hope he does start. But Simons is also playing well. He fits well next to Deni in the backcourt. And Scoot is playing great off the bench. So maybe Chauncey knows more than both of us? But we are getting off-topic. None of us have a clue whether or not Chauncey talked to Simons as well
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2025
    STOMP likes this.
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I'm not so sure anymore.
     
  12. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    15,006
    Likes Received:
    14,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    Fair enough. If I were to guess, I still think this team wants a high pick this year and they are going to see if letting the young players play is enough or not - if they win despite the fact that the vets get tankanitis - the will be OK with it, if they can't, the team will be happy to take the higher draft odds.
     
  13. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    14,683
    Likes Received:
    11,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    I I guess i am showing my age.
     
  14. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,642
    Likes Received:
    17,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
  15. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,361
    Likes Received:
    9,325
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ayton is a worse defender than Ant.

    Amazing the defense that Billups has the starters playing.
     
  16. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    24,049
    Likes Received:
    30,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    If you have a good offensive player who’s weak at the defensive end, wouldn’t it be better to play him with good defenders who can cover for him than to play a better defender in that spot? Pretty much makes the offensive stud unplayable when he doesn’t have great defenders covering for him.
     
    Pinwheel1 and SharpesTriumph like this.
  17. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,361
    Likes Received:
    9,325
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why do you think this?

    I'm not seeing any of that. I see a Blazer team that wants to make a run at the playin and has more wins today than over 82 games last year. Last year we ended up with pick #7.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    But Scoot has been outplaying Simons on both ends. So why not just start the guy who can play both ways?
     
  19. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    24,049
    Likes Received:
    30,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    A. Not sure that’s true.

    B. Because the weak defender doesn’t have a shot to make his offensive contributions at a time when he’s covered by better defenders.
     
  20. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,361
    Likes Received:
    9,325
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I believe eBlazer point in that then your pairing Simons bad defense with Sharpe bad defense. Instead right now the best defenders are starting with Simons covering his D.

    Scoot can bring his D on the 2nd unit where he doesn't require the same excellent defensive starters to play with him that Ant needs.

    Not saying Id do the same move, and an element of it seems a little fucked up as you say if Scoot is outplaying a starter, but I can kind of see strategically the argument for that.
     

Share This Page