And in all reality; Obama will double the debt spending of Bush's 8 year term. It is estimated that if Obama's budget projects stay; the spending will be at 9.34 trillion during his two terms. And most of this spending is on Obama's actual policies he implimented his first two years.
It is an excuse though. The excuse is that Bush fucked up the economy before Obama even took office, and that he needs more time to finish what he's started. That's what I've heard multiple times, so I'm not just making it up. With that said, in your opinion, at what point can Obama and his supporters no longer bring up Bush as a reason for the economy sucking? Next year? Two years? Or will Obama ride the "Bush fucked us" train four his entire eight year reign?
Aren't both sets of numbers bad? Again, we can discuss all day whether the rock or the hard place is more evil and it accomplishes nothing. Also, keep in mind that federal budgets don't change year to year to match the economy. Running a large budget deficit in a strong economy means a larger deficit in a weak economy. But enough on the finger pointing. What's the right side going to offer up to meet in the middle? So far I'm hearing zero give.
I would offer up, "cut the budget to $3T, then we'll talk about raising revenue to balance it from there."
I pointed my finger at Bush plenty. I never supported the problems Bush made. As a Republican; he embarrassed our party with frivolous spending and idiotic decisions. I put plenty of Blame on Bush. Which is why I have no problem blaming Obama. Don't think that I'm just ranting on Obama only. I was pissed at Bush Sr. and Jr. This was the reason I voted for Clinton his two terms. That dude actually got it right. He brought both parties together; which was why the economy got a boost. Obama is so far left wing in his decisions; that it will create a "grid-lock" and nothing is going to get done. And I'm tired of Obama blaming Bush; when his administration is spending more than Bush ever did on their policies.
Absolutely; but his postives greatly outweighed the negatives IMO. Just like we can discuss the same issues with Reagan. I think of Reagan being the best President our Country ever had; but he made some mistakes as well. When I evaluate an Administration; I see the entire picture. I look at the state of the union when he came into office, to how it was when he left.
See, I look at Clinton and I see a guy who rode out the tail end of Reaganomics and then cut back military spending drastically to build up a surplus. Shit man, if you cut back our military budget you're bound to save tons of cash.
The problem is, I don't think this is the time to be cutting back our military. Times are too uncertain. By all means, get out of Afghanistan and/or pull back some of our forces, but don't shrink our military. Especially our Navy. I would prefer they just find a way to make things run smoother. Make it run more efficiently.
he has shown no willingness to work with his side of the isle, so why would he work with those he views to be aginst him? The past four years are going to start catching up with him very soon. Things like the "trial" program that covers the costs on a temporary basis, of the things he has cut on medicare, that ends after the first of the year. The true costs of obama car will become evident before it kicks in, hell, I know of four businesses that were waiting to see who got the nod, and now with no hope of repeal, will close their doors. The guy that owns the business I work at is considering retierment rather than four more fucked up years..in short, I do not see oboma souldering any responsibility for his social engeneering experiment, he only takes credit when things are good, and I can not see any way he can spend his way to a good econemy
Well ya, but if the military is the target, I would rather see spending become more efficient, rather than just simply cutting spending and closing bases.
I don't think Clinton cut the military. He used it plenty - in places like Somalia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, Haiti, Kosovo, Bosnia and East Timor. GHW Bush did cut the military. Cheney was in charge of that. The base closing commission set up under Bush closed 350 bases in 4 rounds. 3 of those rounds during the Bush administration.
Baloney. It was a BIG internal issue in the Republican party. You may not have noticed, because, as usual, the mainstream media, mostly ignored this vital issue to waste time on trivialities and personalities.
I know a number of guys who were in the service at the end of Bush Sr and into Clinton. They all hate Clinton. I remember reading once that 90% of the people who were in the Armed Forces during Desert Storm were out in a couple years.
Clinton was a draft dodger. They even named a car after him, the Dodge Drafter. That's why the armed forces didn't like him.
It was and is the "prevailing attitude" of serious people. Get your drift about what is important in this world from the media and you get an onslaught of stuff that is far less important.
