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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

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    Did you get your opponent's wingspan measurements?

    Giving up strength and speed is usually a killer. Even if you were taller than him, you'd probably of been at a disadvantage.

    Now we know why your height vs. wingspan argument has never made much sense. :)
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    no way.
     
  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Way.

    Harris’ biggest knock is his ginormous contract - he’s a third wheel being paid like a mega star. Definitely on that Rudy Gay/Derozen tier.

    Thybulle will be a perennial dpoty candidate.
     
  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I bet you would've had just as much trouble if you were 6'5 with shorter arms. You don't play basketball with the top of your head. Having a longer or shorter neck doesn't mean anything.
     
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  5. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Who has a limited offensive game.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Harris would be great next to Dame and Nurk.
     
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    Conversely, most of them can't defend him.

    I really don't think this is a huge issue - if you tempt them to post him up, then that fucks up the other team's sets and most SFs are shit at posting up. Do they just shoot over him? Sure - but good NBA players can shoot over anybody. Even Luka, who can't jump for shit, has a step back he can get on anybody.
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Sixers playoff stats:
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    Now, Thybulle might be better down the line. He's almost certainly a better defender already, and he's better suited for SF than Harris... BUT, it's unlikely Thybulle is ever as offensively versatile as Harris, and Harris is no slouch of a defender either.

    Thybulle's certainly a fuck of a lot cheaper...
     
  10. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    What’s taking Kawhi so long hehe
     
  11. wizenheimer

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    "his fingertips are an inch further away from his core when fully extended so that makes up for his height".

    I don't care how much you preach about standing reach, as long as the basket is at 10' above the court instead of 4' above the court, 6'3 is at a disadvantage when guarding 6'8.
     
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    in my 'defense', when I said 6'7, I was thinking about a couple of a summertime pickup game when I was living in Eugene and the 6'7 guy I was 'guarding' was Greg Ballard (bbref). He was just a kid and I was a grown man....but it didn't make a difference. He wasn't even trying hard either

    if you're not a shot-blocker, standing reach doesn't mean much of anything. And defense isn't played with your arms fully extended horizontally
     
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    Yes or No?
     
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    Giving up speed, size and strength.
    It’s almost as if… Wiz isn’t an NBA player and most likely isn’t an elite athlete either.

    I wonder how much Wiz and Norm Powell have in common.

    I am going to say your experience is about as meaningful as when I scored on Damon Stoudamire at his basketball camp.
     
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    Doesn’t matter
    We need bigger changes

    and Paul Millsap is garbage now
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Bigtime YES!
     
  17. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Milsap YES
    Oubre NO
     
  18. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    He's older, but not garbage. He would be a quality backup.
     
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    I'd take both for the bench, sure.
     
  20. JoshuaHall

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    You could argue that 6’8 is at a greater disadvantage when guarding 6’3 (with long arms.)

    Lower center of gravity, in theory should be faster, etc.

    Also, Powell isn’t exactly a “slight dude.”

    I do, however, primarily agree with your premise that height matters.

    I do think reach does factor in to negate some of it. Minimizing passing angles, contest shots with outstretched arms.

    There are definitely benefits.

    But I think the benefits of being taller are greater.
     
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