Free Agent Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,234
    Likes Received:
    1,185
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is NeO supposed to do when there looks to be NO trades out there that make sense to make or that are out there in general -- is he supposed to pull a trade out of his ass or something and the same goes for FA's left. I mean really only Millsap and who else and maybe he is asking too much atm Full Mid lvl aka 9m range or maybe Portland wants to see what it has from Summer league guys or just see what plays out and then around training camp sign someone there is just SO many reasons.

    I understand fans are worried Dame is going to say screw this and demands a trade at some point and that would be a disaster but everyone just assumes NeO is sitting in his office jerking off to porn and doing nothing and I kind of doubt this is the case. Would i love to see the Blazers make a move ? --- YES but I do not want them to make a move just for making a moves sake like some of you seem to want cause your impatient and/or worried about the future with Dame. The Blazers offseason has not been as bad as some media IDIOTS aka B-Edge thinks now it has not been great but if i was to give them a grade to this point NOT factoring in the Dame thing hanging over the team's head it would be a B to B minus cause I will agree having a tool in FA and not using it makes the team look a little cheap but like I said that could change but for right now it is a wasted tool that prolly should be used. I would advice use more patience even though i will admit it can be tough at times knowing what next summer might hold but what else can we do cause whining and bitching at NeO is not going to get a deal done and quicker will it ? -- NOPE so enjoy the rest of the offseason and maybe when you least expect it it something with happen.
     
  2. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,473
    Likes Received:
    30,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    They're already sending billions to someone. Being a pro sports owner is among the elitist groups in the world. There are only 30 NBA owners, there would be zero problem selling the Blazers, as is, even if they went into the lux tax.

    Because maybe they want to make it easier to make other trades in the future?
     
  3. SlyPokerCat

    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,940
    Likes Received:
    6,543
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stop defending Neil.

    Also we don't think he is jerking off to porn. He is jerking off while looking at himself in the mirror saying he is a pretty pretty princess and arrogantly thinking he is the prettiest GM in all the NBA.
     
    Strenuus, Labinot41, TBpup and 2 others like this.
  4. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,473
    Likes Received:
    30,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    It's stupid to pay it if you're going to suck. It took Paul Allen a while to learn that lesson, but he did.

    Have to be smart, and just signing a player because he's out there (and doesn't fit with the team/jive with Damian, etc) is dumb.

    Plus, I'm convinced they're angling towards a trade anyways (not of Damian).
     
  5. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do we really know what's going on behind closed doors? Y'all act like they are pounding the pudd right now. Maybe they're in talks with many teams, but want to make the right deal. Plus it takes two to Tango. We've become such a gratification right now society . Patience. There are moves to be made, and quality players out there still. I enjoy target shooting, but had to sell my gun to make ends meet in 2019. Doing better now, but will wait to buy a replacement when i have the money saved up to do so. I'm not going to go against my plan. It takes patience.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    90,264
    Likes Received:
    52,306
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    If we stand pat and Dame asks out, I'm not going to follow this team until we have new ownership. I have zero faith that this "brain trust" could build a winner from scratch.
     
    BBert and Haakzilla like this.
  7. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,473
    Likes Received:
    30,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    It's easier to go with the negative mindset of "Damian is going to be traded".
     
  8. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Deep inside Puddy, you think he's sexy. Puuurrrrrrrrrrrr.
     
  9. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sad
     
  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    56,227
    Likes Received:
    54,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    nearly every account from both the team (players/coach) and media (local and national) has us "running it back." are we to not take these comments at face value. Even if there is a trade, it won't involve starters.

    That much is clear.

    Is that not grounds for concern to you?
     
  11. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,473
    Likes Received:
    30,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    Because we've always heard what the team is going to do from players, coaches and media?

    like we knew well ahead of time they were trading for Powell? Or Nurk/picks? Or signing that gawd awful contract with Turner?
     
    Idog1976, HailBlazers and tykendo like this.
  12. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    56,227
    Likes Received:
    54,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    When was it ever this explicit? These aren't tea leaves. These are literal quotes. Take a look at Powell's interview with Brooke and try to glean any hints of a potential change in the starting lineup from last year.
     
  13. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,273
    Likes Received:
    28,749
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    Just curious, if Dame gets traded it's going to be for Simmons or someone else of that caliber, plus picks & who knows what else. Let's say Neil does his old buddy Morey a solid and gets Simmons. How is a lineup of Nurk, Simmons, RoCo, Norm, & CJ "plus some decent young players and likely a couple first round picks, "starting from scratch"? I'm not arguing that Olshey should still be in the GM spot, but whoever is has a pretty good bunch of assets to start from.
     
  14. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,273
    Likes Received:
    28,749
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    I think that's a fair assessment as far as what the situation will be at the start of the season. I think there's a pretty good chance Olshey picks up another big, but that's about it. I think what happens before the deadline is entirely dependent upon how the team is playing by that point. It could range from standing pat, to trading CJ for a better fit, to trading Dame and then picking up the pieces. I don't remember a situation remotely like this for the Blazers since Clyde demanded a trade.
     
  15. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    56,227
    Likes Received:
    54,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    I don't think it's that rosy if Dame were to be traded for Simmons midseason. You're gonna be left with Nurk/Roco on expiring contracts who could potentially walk for nothing in the summer,a 31 yr old CJ on a 70 mil deal for 2 yrs and Powell with 4 yrs, 70+ mil left, and a supposedly unhappy Ben who would be angling to get out.

    The picks from Philly with Dame/Embiid on the team are of no interest to me, even 4-5yrs down the line.
     
    Natebishop3 likes this.
  16. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    non sense. They offered the MLE to both Batum and Oubre. That doesn’t mean they should just spend it though, and I’m glad they’re not blowing it on some washed up player like Millsap. When the best argument to sign someone is “we can use him in a trade later” it’s not a good idea to begin with.
     
    42N8Bounce likes this.
  17. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,273
    Likes Received:
    28,749
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    I'm not saying that the rebuild should necessarily be about just adding players to that group, just saying that the GM, hopefully NEW GM, will have some pieces with considerable value to use in trades or keep.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    90,264
    Likes Received:
    52,306
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Nurk has already said that he won't stay if Dame goes. Frankly, the logical move if Dame asks to be traded is to completely blow it up, and that's where my complete lack of faith in this organization comes into play.
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  19. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    13,999
    Likes Received:
    14,919
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think Neil is at summer league trying to make shit happen. The problem is that you've bought into the narrative that there are no trades to make. There have to be a lot of trades to make that would make our team better right now. I would guarantee that if Neil lowered his valuation of CJ to the leagues and therefore was willing to add more picks and swaps in a trade that sent CJ and possibly DJ out for a legit second option, we'd already have the trade done. The fact is we know from listening to Neil that he wants to feel like he has won every trade and we for damn sure know he overvalues CJ.

    This shit is what is holding up the process. I'm hoping it's a tactic that works enough to get Neil past himself and allows for a deal that would improve this roster or at least give the roster the potential to be better.
     
    Idog1976 likes this.
  20. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,273
    Likes Received:
    28,749
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    "Completely blowing it up" still leaves a GM with some pretty good assets as he moves guys who are under contract for other pieces or picks. Whatever the new GM chooses to do, the team won't be starting from scratch.
     
    blazerkor likes this.

Share This Page