Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    That's true, a machinist can do whatever, and $1000 pays for a lot of machine work to a rifle.

    The note wasn't necessarily for you, just in case anybody reading wasn't sure.
     
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    I am sure it does, it is just an answer to the question you had of "how do you get rid of 400 million fire-arms" - the answer to that is you control the consumable, so if you do manage to change / clarify that amendment, you can fix the problem quickly without having all these guns removed which will take some time.
     
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    Good point, yeah. If we ever did get some kind of change to the 2nd that may be the best way to go.
     
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  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    As long as we don’t infringe in anybody’s rights, right? Can’t wait to hear people defend this one.

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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I thought doors were the issue.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Reason #249 to move here

     
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    Yup.

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    Not the guns my ass.

    Just to corroborate total violent crime rate.

    Hawaii is #42 in the nation with a rate of 252 per 100,000, Alaska #2 with a rate of 837,

    When you add the population density with and look at violent crime rate per population density, Mississippi which has a violent crime rate of 291 (higher than Hawaii), has a 1/4 of the population density of Hawaii.

    Yup, the data is all there for everyone to see, yet, somehow, it is the doors and the mental health and all that other stuff.. Please, problem #1 is the easy access to death tools. The other things are worth doing, but if you do not treat the cancer, making better pain management tools is not going to solve the problem.
     
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    Those stats include suicides, which make up the majority of those deaths, which skew the numbers greatly. If you look up gun homicides you get quite a different list. Wyoming for instance is #2 out of all the states on the list you presented. When you leave out suicides it’s drops to the very bottom.
     
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    Nobody said that. You're not helping your cause by claiming they did.
     
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    How did these numbers change when comparing before and after their gun control? How many are suicides?

    Seems like if we could just make the US an island seperated from 99% of the rest of the world we might be off to a great start... It would probably also help if we could get tropical weather and beaches near everyone and a general "vacation" vibe throughout the country...

    I'm digging his idea...

    Who the hell wants to shoot anybody in Hawaii?
     
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    All those Daughters of the Confederacy white women who stormed school board meetings, frequently without having children in public schools, demanding children be protected from critical race theory, which is not taught in grade school, and from LGB and above all trans students, screaming keep our children safe? Where are they when children are actually shot, not by critical race theory and not by married gays or trans girls?
     
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    “Mental issues” don’t take a break on an island. Neither does bad education or poor healthcare.
     
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    Hawaii is the only state that has near universal Healthcare.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8353211/

    *Edit* Hawaii also has over 2 million guns for a population of 1.4 million. Which is higher than the overall rate of gun ownership in the continental US.

    Hawaii was an awesome one to look at. It offers a lot of unique advantages to examine compared to other states in the US.
     
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    It’s hilarious (and sad and infuriating) that no matter WHAT statistic someone might bring about deadly weapons it’s still not the deadly weapons fault. So so sooooo stupid.
     
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    So employers have to provide healthcare. Great. Does that mean all the shootings elsewhere are just a bunch of uninsured kids who’s parents are either jobless or homeless? These kids seem to come from working families much of the time.
     
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    They also have expanded Medicare and Medicaid.
     

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