Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I should have clarified it by saying I meant younger people.
     
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    About 23% and by far the largest demographic in the country. Think about it.
     
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    Correct. And not all 20 year olds smoke weed. Far from it. In fact, only 4% of conservatives smoke weed at all, so that removes quite a few 20 year olds.

    So again, far fewer people smoke weed than own guns. It's not close.
     
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    You think? It would be interesting to actually research this?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You're including old fogies and excluding younger folk.
     
  7. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I truly hope this travesty from this morning has no impact on any of our forum members.

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    The 12% covers all demographics of adults. And people under 19 only make up less than 25% of the population. 15-19 is only 7%. So at absolute most you're talking 15-17% of the population, including children and old folks...

    And that's assuming everybody from 15-18 smokes weed. Which is WAY overestimating.
     
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    Very interesting link. Thanks for sharing!

    Interesting point... Similarly, if guns are the problem how do you account for the 99.9+% of guns which are never used to commit a crime?

    Is this making the case against the need for wait times as part of the solution for mass shootings? Either way, it's interesting...

    It sounds like this guy pretty much agrees with the other professionals we've linked. Troubled people usually give signs before committing these atrocities, and they should be helped. We need to improve all American's access to help.

    But most troubled people aren't dangerous, so we should probably be careful about overdoing it.
     
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    Sure.

    I agree with his conclusions. from the article:

    Primary prevention: universal registration of firearms and much closer regulation of individuals purchasing firearms
    Secondary prevention in the case of those who might be on the pathway to violence is to identify symptomatic individuals and then intervene to try to divert them from that pathway

    Unfortunately, primary prevention is going to too hard politically in this country.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Pot is still illegal in much of the country. It makes sense that some people might not admit to smoking it. I suspect the number is an underestimate.

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    As were the gun data. Seems fair to compare it to the other polls linked...
     
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    As I'm sure many people who own guns do the same.
     
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    Why? Most gun owners I know are quite proud to identify as gun owners. In fact it's often hard to get them to talk about anything else.

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    You probably don't even realize many gun owners you know are actually gun owners.
     
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    Sure. It's like the Nixon's Silent Majority, right?

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    No. Probably more like the Marijuana thing. They don't want want to draw more attention to themselves than necessary.

    Most gun owners don't talk about guns much with people who aren't also interested in guns.
     
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