Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    I’d put you on the higher end of firearm IQ in this forum…
    You ever seen a bump stock used? Or heard an AR-15 with one? You ever watched the Vegas video?
    Check out both and im genuinely curious what you think.
     
  2. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, bump stocks have seemed so pointless that I've never given them a second thought.
    Here is a pretty good video that shows a good comparison :

    • Semi-auto (5 rounds per second),
    • Bump stock (7.5 rounds per second with incredibly poor accuracy [Side note: just look at how much that gun moves!])
    • Full auto (at least 15 rounds per second [and I'd personally note, full auto still has much less accuracy than a semi-auto, but much better than a bump stock]).
    I don't know if there is enough information available to determine if the official reports are lies, so I'm hesitant to assume they are.



    And here is a list of his weapons with a gallery of evidence.
    https://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas...idence-from-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock

     
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  3. BigGameDamian

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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Just imagining the effort it takes for a 50-60 year old man to carry that entire armory, plus ammunition, into a high rise hotel room. I’m guessing the cameras malfunctioned during this instance and there’s no documentation of it, just a hunch.
    Do me a favor and look up some videos of a m240 belt fed machine gun being fired. If you’re really into research, clock the firing rate and compare it to the Vegas videos, see it’s a perfect match. Then, tell me what other two guns have a perfectly matching firing rate of 600 rounds per minute. Spoiler alert: not an AR15 with a bump stock, or any other gun for that matter.
     
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    Vegas Shooting


    Skip to 1:00 to hear M240B


    Skip to 1:50 to hear AR-15 with bump stock.
     
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    I wonder... Kinda horrifying to think about, but...Vegas shooter fired 1100 rounds and only 58 people died. I wonder if using the bump stock actually killed fewer people than if he'd just taken his time and aimed for a second or two between shots... Especially if he'd just brought half as many guns and spent the money saved on better optics.

    It's very possible the death toll could be much higher without the bump stock... Even if he only hit a fatality in 1 out of 3 shots... That would still be 100 deaths... And as long as he were aiming at people in groups he'd probably have injured just as many with the misses...
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Maybe he was a bad shot and wouldn't have hit anyone if he'd aimed.

    barfo
     
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    He was already aiming. Just the least effective way possible, with about the least accurate rifle configuration possible.

    Look at that video of the bump stock. The way the whole gun flops around.
    He almost couldn't have had a less accurate setup. Even a person with bad aim would likely be far more accurate.
     
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  13. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Another school shooting. Winder Georgia. High school. At least two dead and four injured.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    4 dead, 30 injured.

    The price of freedom
     
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    It'll be interesting to learn how he got a hold of a gun as a 14 year old. The Newtown shooter killed his mom and stole her guns.

    Many others buy their guns legally.

    Aside from a bigger emphasis on improving mental health and getting care to the people who need it I'm not really sure how you'd prevent these attacks.

    You have a big building full of unarmed people who can't defend themselves. That's a pretty tempting target for a deranged mind.
     
  18. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Got in to Daddy or mommy's guns.

    Getting ridiculous.

    Sounds like bullying is part of it.

    Parents gotta do better job stopping theirs kids from getting their guns.

    Politicians and others need to stop glorifying guns.

    We need to better with mental health treatment for sure.
     
  19. chris_in_pdx

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    Thoughts and Prayers. That's what we're supposed to do, right?
     
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    They released the name of the shooter... First name Colt.
     

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