See below. I marked in red what I disagree with and green what I do agree with. The main foundation of my opinions are heavy investigating of ones history, etc before getting a gun permit. But then once deemed not a threat, they should be able to purchase weapons that can actually be of use in the event of a military coup. We should. There should be a required safety course. Just like a drivers exam is required to operate a vehicle. But once passed, an individual should be able to purchase semi automatic weapons or there is no real defense to all of the more powerful weapons out thre already. But we do require helmets. We can all use a bit of brevity.
This is a fairly open ended and complex question. For example. Lets take ORS 166.260. It has several provisions within it. I may agree with one, but not the other. For example on this one. It is considered a crime of unlawful possession of a firearm if the person knowingly... carriers any firearm hidden from sight on thier body. has a gun that has a gun hidden from sight in a vehicle is a minor (by the federal gauge of 18) If a person has been convicted of a felony Has been committed to the OHA for mental issues Has been found guilty of insanity and there are a few others... Now take that list above, I may agree with most of it, but may not agree with the minor thing. Maybe I think that it should be 21? we allow minors to drive at 16. Levels of responsibility can vary regardless of the designated minor/adult age transition is. So point being, I think it might be better to ask me about a specific law and how I feel about it, vs asking me to comment on every law there is, even though there aren't as many in this state compared to some others. It' s all about the degrees. But a synopsis of what I believe is this: A person who is wanting to own a gun, should go through a very rigorous background and mental health eval check and then a required training course they have to pass. Once done, ghey should be able to purchase the weapons of thier desire(short of nukes, ICBMS, etc. lets keep it real) If a guy wants to buy a few AK47's he should be able to do so after passing all of the required qualifications. I hope that helps at least partly answer the question.
Minors should have guns? It's saying it's unlawful possession of a firearm if you are a minor and carrying a gun. Minors shouldn't have guns. So what's the issue? Otherwise I understand what you are saying agreeing with some of and disagreeing with parts of different gun laws.
I went the opposite Chris, read it again. I'm not sure 18 is old enough for a fire arm in today's world. The mind is still developing and is young and naive, emotional, etc. I'd be fine if it was raised to 21, possibly even 25.
OB, So without the banning you are cool with the rest of that. Do you think if a similar bill (without the bannings) was put to the floor federally, the Republicans in the Senate and house would vote for it?
Oh ok got you. I agree. Though we are considered adults at 18, many are not mentally adults yet. I agree.
Well, though my views still mostly lean conservative and republicanish, i withdrew and became an independent for various reasons, the biggest being Trumps behavior. However it wasn't the only reason. Part of it was also the increasingly rigid and noncompromising stance the GOP has been taking on many topics. And to see what happened on Jan. 6th and whats going on in Texas, i think i made the right decision. So no, i don't think they will aNd the sad thing is, i dont think its because they think its agaisnt their right and illogical, i think it would be in spite of the Dems. Dems do this too on certain topics. But were talking about the GOP. The underlying and much bigger threat is everyone is being led by their emotions, triggered by aggressive headline statements without depth or context. Often misleading, or outright false headlines and satire, that people misconstrue as the truth. The polarization of both sides that continue to put up more walls instead of work together is… well its deflating to say the least. But as long as we sit and point fingers nothing will change. And im guilty of it too. But we all…citizens, political leaders, media influentials, etc, need to stop letting our emotions rule our opinions aNd fool ourselves into them being facts to the point that if someone disagrees, they are the enemy. Until we can get passed this mindset, there is no fixing anything. Until we can put aside what we think is right and listen to the other side and find a common ground of agreement to start to build off of, nothing is gonna get better. We need to stop looking for whats wrong in the opposite party and find what is right. Agree on it. Work together on it. Build some foundations of trust back. Then can we start tackling the items of disagreement. What i see is everyone just pointing fingers in a very negative, hostile way. Not sure where it started, but i don’t think it was the average citizen. It was media or politicians, but it doesn't matter anymore. it has taken a grip on our society so tight, its going to be difficult to get it loosened without casualty, in my opinion.
You really, honestly feel that you are bullet worthy? No joke? You honestly go to sleep at night thinking you are important enough to be on somebody’s hit list. C’Mon man. This has nothing to do with protecting people and all about not wanting to be told what to do. No different than the vaccine. I grew up seeing people murdered and then for some reason went into the army and trained to murder people. Not sure what I was thinking. There is no place in society for guns. If you truly have seen somebody taken down there is NO way you would feel that way bro.
So none of those numbers take into account violent crime or murder rates change before and after enacting gun control, compared to similar countries. The numbers I posted look at the big picture. Evidence of actual lives saved. Not from an emotional perspective. And there is nothing that can really dispute that other than "guns are bad because I said so". And sorry, but that's just not good enough. That's just more political left vs right BS, IMO. Welcome to why Republicans beat Democrats so often.
We did something. We did an assault weapons ban in the mid 90s. It lasted a decade and made absolutely no difference. Even democrats couldn't make up reasons to extend it.
