Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure it's a felony to carry a gun into a school. Intent would add to that. Brandishing is illegal in itself, even if not in a school.

    Yeah, this is illegal any way you want to look at it.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I agree. It's like they want to shoot someone as bad as the gunman does. This guy wasn't the gunman, if they asked him to put the gun down he would have. Apparently, they shoot first and asked questions later.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    FROM MY COLD DEAD FEET!

    Literally!

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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Great, now the chupacabras have guns……….:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341:smiley-195517897341
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    The first thing police should focus on is
    "Do no harm"
    Then
    "Serve and protect"
    Then
    "Duck and cover".
    They should have access to the best body armor money can buy and they should be paid well enough to be in the top 15% of income earners, and have a house provided to them free of charge in the city of their employment.

    If they sell the house when they leave/retire they should be required to sell back to the police department at a heavily discounted rate for future department use, while also being compensated for any gains they would have earned on that house if they owned it.
     
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    In two days





     
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    It’s not a gun problem, it’s the idiot kids faults

     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Newsflash:
    Violent Crime and Murder Rates Increase In Times Of Decreased Stability

    Let's not forget that the country locking down, high gas prices and less disposable income may result in people driving less, which would tend to result in fewer auto accidents, hence fewer deaths...
    https://afdc.energy.gov/data/mobile/10315

    Blaming a tool is generally pointless. Especially since you can guarantee the 2nd amendment will not be changed in the next couple decades.
     
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    Got it - so since Covid and lockdowns only happened in the US, should we move somewhere else where this is surely not happening?
     
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    I'm not seeing the connection you're trying to make... Did violent crime and murder rates not increase elsewhere in the world? Did miles driven, and thereby auto deaths not decrease elsewhere?
     
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    Guns leading cause of death now for kids in the US. Same for other 1st world countries? Or no just us?
     
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    Guns aren't a part of the equation in other countries. They are a part of the equation here. And that's not going to change.

    What is the leading cause in other countries?

    In the US, car auto deaths dropped from 10k to 7k thanks to safety improvements in vehicles, increased cost of of vehicles and insurance, reduced miles driven per person, fewer kids driving at 16, and increased education for kids who do drive.

    Violent crime and murder (as well as suicide) increased with tumultuous times. As it always does. Not to mention, our population increased nearly 20% which would account for over 60% of the increase by itself...

    Is there any evidence that guns have caused a larger increase for the US than other countries? If so, you might be on to something... But then, even so, the 2nd ammendment isn't going to change.

    The only way we'll improve it would be to increase our gini coefficient.

    *Edit* and "kids" being up to 24yrs old... Which includes all of the gang related shootings. Which no laws or restriction could possibly impact. Again, increased gini coefficient solves this problem better than anything. Everything else is a wasted effort.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Almost exclusively, kids (mostly criminals themselves) are killed by other kids, blacks (mostly criminals themselves) are killed by other blacks, caucasians (mostly criminals themselves) are killed by other caucasians, asians (mostly criminals themselves) are killed by other asians...

    Nearly all violent crime in America is poor on poor, neighbor on neighbor, relative on relative.

    Only among gangs is racism a measurable factor.

    Type of weapon available is inconsequential to the outcome.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    I think a clearer correlation is that fewer miles driven = increased violent crime and murder rates. :dunno:
     
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    Throw in some apple pie and this is as American as it gets

     
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    Apparently a bunch of teenagers decided to pull up in their cars in the ajoining parking lot and have a fist fight, which turned into a gun fight.

    Pretty sad to see those little kids have to scramble or get on the ground in fear of being shot at a baseball game.
     
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    Yeah, so again I don't think 2463 deaths over 40 years (62 deaths per year) is worth restricting the rights of every American.

    I'm not going to support universal background checks over 62 deaths per year. Especially when there are far less controversial ways to get the same or better results.

    And there are similarly controversial ways to get FAR better results.

    *Edit* Actually 49 deaths per year, since the other 20% were apparently already illegally used
     
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